Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 How much are loaded dice? Kidding! Only kidding. Sort of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3956930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Part of the ship...I'm really tired right now so bear with me buuuuuuut what the hell does this mean? I see this repeated a lot. Am I part of a ride? I feel like an idiot but I have no idea what it is. Saw the rules on forgeworld and the other consul type looks really cool as well. Seems like a good way of bringing some mechanicum to your list without a large investment by using allies. Also they get your rules which are pretty cool. Also I'm wondering is their any benefits over pride of the legion which let's you do the same thing? It's an idiosyncrasy of ours started waaaay back ;) it's a reference to the movie pirates of the Caribbean 2 where you slowly become one of us heresyites. The heresy is our ship, and we are it's crew. You can never leave once you're on the ship, because being one of the crew, you become part of the ship. Trust me, join us and you'll love every minute of it. It's deliciously evil and we have the best community by far. But we got in trouble for it so now we do it subliminal like. GET ON THIS SHIP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3956937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 How much are loaded dice? Kidding! Only kidding. Sort of. They're only 35pts... Of course, actually modelling the Combat Augment Array is another thing entirely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3956940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 PoTL is a bad example since it also doesnt allow allies yeah you're right, i thought it just doesn't allow legion allies :X Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3956950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 That's a point actually... Rules as written for the Delegatus say that 'Allied Force Detachments may also not be taken with this army' if it's a Primary Detachment... Is there anything stopping you from having another force as the Primary Detachment and having a Delegatus leading the Allied detachment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3956963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 That's a point actually... Rules as written for the Delegatus say that 'Allied Force Detachments may also not be taken with this army' if it's a Primary Detachment... Is there anything stopping you from having another force as the Primary Detachment and having a Delegatus leading the Allied detachment? Under his Rite of Command special rule, he needs to be the army's Warlord and (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe your Warlord can only be selected from the Primary Detachment. I'd be delighted if the Ultramarines get a rule to allow Veteran Tacticals as troops, without removing allies as an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I can't see myself using a delegatus, however a praevian isn't off the cards, vorax seem like really nice models and having something with a bit of munching power to back up terror squads sounds fun. Maybe have them to help my list to 2.5k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 EDIT: On another thought; will the IF +1 BS for bolt weapons apply to the Mauler bolt cannons for Castellax? Potential for BS5 bolt cannons, if so.Actually, the Imperial Fists' Disciplined Fire rule specifically mentions boltguns, bolt pistols, heavy bolters and quad heavy bolters, so no, it wouldn't apply to the Bolt Cannons. The Castellax's boltguns would get the +1BS, just not the main cannon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Part of the ship...I'm really tired right now so bear with me buuuuuuut what the hell does this mean? I see this repeated a lot. Am I part of a ride? I feel like an idiot but I have no idea what it is. Saw the rules on forgeworld and the other consul type looks really cool as well. Seems like a good way of bringing some mechanicum to your list without a large investment by using allies. Also they get your rules which are pretty cool. Also I'm wondering is their any benefits over pride of the legion which let's you do the same thing? It's an idiosyncrasy of ours started waaaay back ;) it's a reference to the movie pirates of the Caribbean 2 where you slowly become one of us heresyites. The heresy is our ship, and we are it's crew. You can never leave once you're on the ship, because being one of the crew, you become part of the ship. Trust me, join us and you'll love every minute of it. It's deliciously evil and we have the best community by far. But we got in trouble for it so now we do it subliminal like "Would you kindly join the heresy..." ;) +1 for the reference Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjasuperspy Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 That's awfully nice of them to post. Now I can cancel some bids on some Weekender programs (just covering my bases in case people aren't into "No seriously, I have some cameraphone snaps I pulled off of Facebook here on my phone with the rules on them"). Now to just decide if I want to build a small Delegatus force or a Heavy Metal Dynat + Praevian + Banestrike Castellax force... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Part of the ship...I'm really tired right now so bear with me buuuuuuut what the hell does this mean? I see this repeated a lot. Am I part of a ride? I feel like an idiot but I have no idea what it is. Saw the rules on forgeworld and the other consul type looks really cool as well. Seems like a good way of bringing some mechanicum to your list without a large investment by using allies. Also they get your rules which are pretty cool. Also I'm wondering is their any benefits over pride of the legion which let's you do the same thing? It's an idiosyncrasy of ours started waaaay back ;) it's a reference to the movie pirates of the Caribbean 2 where you slowly become one of us heresyites. The heresy is our ship, and we are it's crew. You can never leave once you're on the ship, because being one of the crew, you become part of the ship. Trust me, join us and you'll love every minute of it. It's deliciously evil and we have the best community by far. But we got in trouble for it so now we do it subliminal like"Would you kindly join the heresy..." ;) +1 for the reference http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/43466_7154b74660ad016566a16ed71e01f21f_zpskx1gunvn.png to polite Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 All this warbling and no thoughts given to squads of "T8" Iron Hands Castellax. Suck it, Eldar, we get it on the cheap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakuth Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 EDIT: On another thought; will the IF +1 BS for bolt weapons apply to the Mauler bolt cannons for Castellax? Potential for BS5 bolt cannons, if so.Actually, the Imperial Fists' Disciplined Fire rule specifically mentions boltguns, bolt pistols, heavy bolters and quad heavy bolters, so no, it wouldn't apply to the Bolt Cannons. The Castellax's boltguns would get the +1BS, just not the main cannon... Alas, you are right, brother. I have since read that. Still, it's going to lead to more hits/more casualties. Especially if you grab the enhanced targeting array. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 All this warbling and no thoughts given to squads of "T8" Iron Hands Castellax. Suck it, Eldar, we get it on the cheap. Eh, Castellax shooting sucks (for their cost), you are more dangerous in CC so you don't benefit from T8* all that much. Admittedly, Medusa gives you FNP though. Edited; could have sworn HotG gave it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Or you can take Ferrus for Free* FNP *You're still paying for a Primarch so its not that free.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's just Ferrus giving the FNP sadly, although technically would HotG allow graviton guns on Castellax..? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindOfMetal Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Raktra: I don't think it would, it only allows infantry with flamers to upgrade them to graviton guns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3957836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Yeah, I think it's a bit of a shame that swapping out the bolters for Graviton Guns wasn't listed amongst the Legion-specific wargear options given with the Praevian Not sure how effective it'd be rules wise, but rule of cool yo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Regarding the Praevin, the Cortex Designator, it works for combat as well right? Or does "targeted" refer to shooting only? I'm thinking of a Salamander with the ROW, so that with 2x (S5) Flamers and twin-linked multi meltas, with 2 power claws (this counts as two CCW doesn't it?). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Ah well, I'll just celebrate their toughness then. It was less for a shooting unit, more for a "won't die before getting stuck in" sort of unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 All this warbling and no thoughts given to squads of "T8" Iron Hands Castellax. Suck it, Eldar, we get it on the cheap. I'm with you. Iron Hands can make a mean HQ deathstar. T8 means bolters will wound you as you march up the table and shatter some tactical blobs. Castellax are already tough to deal with anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Who shoots Bolters at T7 anyway? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If an angry death robot is coming at your tactical blob, what else are you going to shoot at? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry if this been answered, but am I reading it correctly that for one purchase of 15pts, all battle-automata in the Praevian's unit get sonic shriekers? Side note, how do you think a Praevian, Delegatus and Diabolist would team up in terms of usability? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Who shoots Bolters at T7 anyway?Top men, Hesh. Top. Men. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/2/#findComment-3958467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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