MindOfMetal Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Kol: You would be right about the sonic shriekers, 15pts for the whole unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3958477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry if this been answered, but am I reading it correctly that for one purchase of 15pts, all battle-automata in the Praevian's unit get sonic shriekers? Side note, how do you think a Praevian, Delegatus and Diabolist would team up in terms of usability? Well they can't all go in the same unit unfortunately so there's that. I think the delegatus is a god send for word bearers (no pun intended lol) because they need so many HQ choices. It keeps them cheap and cheerful if you don't want to take Erebus. Dark channeling might be useful on the Castellax but I need to re read the effects again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3958808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Ok just looking at the praevan : Can he and his retinue join other units? Or does it then become a seperate units in itself? Looking at ec, they can pick furious charge instead of legion rules (crusader) and then pay 15pts to upgrade them with sonic shriekers. This would mean they are at i5 first turn maiming quite a lot on the first smash..maybe it's another unit to take into account for ec if that's the case... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So I'm looking at the iron warriors guy and his fluff is intriguing. Has anyone heard of the group he's with? The group he's with seems to be with the group that forgeworld described as a break away from the iron warriors legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So I'm looking at the iron warriors guy and his fluff is intriguing. Has anyone heard of the group he's with? The group he's with seems to be with the group that forgeworld described as a break away from the iron warriors legion. I think it's a warrior lodge or possibly a specific grand company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 The Apolakron, or 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a sub-division of the larger Dodekatheon (a competitive body within the Legion which existed to test new wargear designs, strategies and tactical prowess) which is devoted to the maintenance, design & construction of Battle-Automata. I'd assume all Consul-Praevians of the Iron Warriors are drawn from this division of the Legion - hence why Narik was adopted into the formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The Apolakron, or 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a sub-division of the larger Dodekatheon (a competitive body within the Legion which existed to test new wargear designs, strategies and tactical prowess) which is devoted to the maintenance, design & construction of Battle-Automata. I'd assume all Consul-Praevians of the Iron Warriors are drawn from this division of the Legion - hence why Narik was adopted into the formation. I lol'd at brotherhood of steel. That should be a Fallout reference haha They wear power armor too and are a disgruntled bunch much like the IWs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The Apolakron, or 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a sub-division of the larger Dodekatheon (a competitive body within the Legion which existed to test new wargear designs, strategies and tactical prowess) which is devoted to the maintenance, design & construction of Battle-Automata. I'd assume all Consul-Praevians of the Iron Warriors are drawn from this division of the Legion - hence why Narik was adopted into the formation. I lol'd at brotherhood of steel. That should be a Fallout reference haha They wear power armor too and are a disgruntled bunch much like the IWs. They love their tech as well. They seem like some fun people to be around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Perturabo is, obviously, just looking for the water chip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ok just looking at the praevan : Can he and his retinue join other units? Or does it then become a seperate units in itself? Looking at ec, they can pick furious charge instead of legion rules (crusader) and then pay 15pts to upgrade them with sonic shriekers. This would mean they are at i5 first turn maiming quite a lot on the first smash..maybe it's another unit to take into account for ec if that's the case... Well how it works is that you are taking a unit of automota(either Castellax or Vorax) and then putting the Praevian in that unit. So unfortunately it can't join anything else because it is already a unit with an attached IC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ahh I see ok. Not a bodyguard unit as such. They couldn't flank, but stuck him and 4 castellex in a kharbydis backfield could do some serious damage. You'd have to make him a bit of a boss though as ec have to challenge. I know i5 isn't exactly game changing, but it could help a weaker legion if used correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 How exactly are we getting monstrous creatures into transports now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah that is true..I re read the rule for that one, As I stuck fexs into Pods, even then.. So I guess it's walking down the field with 3/4 castellax, or possibly outflank if you have that rule. They cannot run though, so it will be a slow plodding advance. Raining down hails of mauler bolter rounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ok just looking at the praevan : Can he and his retinue join other units? Or does it then become a seperate units in itself? Looking at ec, they can pick furious charge instead of legion rules (crusader) and then pay 15pts to upgrade them with sonic shriekers. This would mean they are at i5 first turn maiming quite a lot on the first smash..maybe it's another unit to take into account for ec if that's the case... No they can't. The rule says "when dealing with Castellex with Legiones Astartes rule there are the following exceptions and additions" or something like that. If they take Furious charge, they don't have Legiones Astartes and therefore the addition for Emperor's children doesn't work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 They can run, Cortex Controller's in with the Praevan. Unless I've missed something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So basically you can have +1 i for free, or get crusader and then pay 15pts for the upgrade..hmm less worth it now lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 How do you get +1 Initiative for free? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 On the charge I mean. Furious charge or select legion rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3959871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 You mean +1 S on the charge? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3960025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Furious charge is +initiative Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3960120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Furious charge is +initiative No its +1S on the Charge :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3960122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Of course lol I'm just not winning in this convo at all am I. I'm living in 2010 clearly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3960126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Of course lol I'm just not winning in this convo at all am I. I'm living in 2010 clearly I withdraw my ridiculous comments lol Dont worry, we all have days like that @_@ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303702-consul-rules-published/page/3/#findComment-3960131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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