Fahlnor Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Having some problems with GW white spray. I know there's new stuff around the corner, but if I don't have to wait a week to get the zenithal highlights done on my models, that would be rather nice...! Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I ran into a problem with it a few years back, with graininess causing a pretty serious problem. Not sure if I'm just imagining a problem here - would appreciate thoughts! http://i.imgur.com/0CNIDSYh.jpg Definite graininess. Le sigh. (Also, ignore the thickness of the paint, etc. This was one of the rubbish wasted models in the eBay lots which was beyond saving. My concern is purely the graininess of the paint.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4063538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Progress is being made, step by step. I currently have 48 models all primed with what I'm considering zenithal highlights. This was my first effort and honestly I'm delighted with how they've come out. Here's a sneak peak at one of the squads: http://i.imgur.com/tW5fpPJl.jpg Seeing them in the flesh, they look really good. Tricky to properly convey the colour gradient in the photo! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4064232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Occasionally I have graininess on my models, but I never know why. Perhaps it's from not having cleaned the model properly, or shaken the can enough, or even another reason. Usually if it happens, I just go with it and work it into battle damage or something. What about that crack on the missile launcher?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4064235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throne Bearer Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Occasionally I have graininess on my models, but I never know why. Perhaps it's from not having cleaned the model properly, or shaken the can enough, or even another reason. Usually if it happens, I just go with it and work it into battle damage or something. What about that crack on the missile launcher?! I haven't used GQ sprays in years because of the graininess, though I have heard it improved. My issue was always made a lot worse in the humidity, so I started to spray after dusk, even when I switched Armoury. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4064277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Occasionally I have graininess on my models, but I never know why. Perhaps it's from not having cleaned the model properly, or shaken the can enough, or even another reason. Usually if it happens, I just go with it and work it into battle damage or something. What about that crack on the missile launcher?! I found by making certain I shook the can really thoroughly and changing the way I was spraying slightly, I got it sorted. Advice from a friend was to spray in very short bursts from slightly closer to the model. I practised on a couple of random models and it really made the difference. And yeah, the missile launcher is a state. Remember these are models I picked up from eBay. I could definitely do more refurbishment on them but to be honest I feel like I'm doing quite enough as is! I figure the crack will get lost in the overall awesomeness of the army! I haven't used GQ sprays in years because of the graininess, though I have heard it improved. My issue was always made a lot worse in the humidity, so I started to spray after dusk, even when I switched Armoury. Mmhmm. I read a few forums which suggested there was actually previously a problem with brush-on Skull White, too. But as I said above, took advice from a friend who's a font of knowledge for paint-related queries and I'm happy with the results! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4064517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 To be honest I'd be using something like Halfords or Hycote auto-primer over any product that claims to be a dedicated miniature primer unless you specifically want that exact colour (eg. Army Painter sprays match their bottled paint and are a great way of avoiding a lot of brushing without the need for an airbrush). At the end of the day both products are acrylic spray paint, only, in my experience, the auto-primers are generally more reliable in terms of graininess and even coats. Cheaper, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4064564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 To be honest I'd be using something like Halfords or Hycote auto-primer over any product that claims to be a dedicated miniature primer unless you specifically want that exact colour (eg. Army Painter sprays match their bottled paint and are a great way of avoiding a lot of brushing without the need for an airbrush). At the end of the day both products are acrylic spray paint, only, in my experience, the auto-primers are generally more reliable in terms of graininess and even coats. Cheaper, too. When I run out of the Skull White I'll go to Halfords. I use their grey already, but the store's a bit out of the way whereas I pass the FLGS every day. Nothing hugely exciting to report at this stage, but I've now basecoated 48 Space Marines and have put the grey basecoat on the concrete for the 48 bases: http://i.imgur.com/k5oxyaol.jpg http://i.imgur.com/61B7GzBl.jpg Have managed to get a bit of red on some of the bases, but I'm not hugely bothered. It'll get covered up with subsequent layers. Next step: quick drybrush of all the hard edges on the Space Marines with Tau Light Ochre and then a blast of Bloodletter Glaze. Something like this: http://i.imgur.com/Xxx8h1Kl.jpg That one is a quick test model I threw together to see how the colours would come out. I think I'm happy enough with it. Now: on to drybrushing.... All comments welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4065940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Galfridus Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I need your level of productivity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4067577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Having a grey evening whilst watching Lost in Space. Anyone remember that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4070189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Having a grey evening whilst watching Lost in Space. Anyone remember that? The theme tune is in my "random awesome music" playlist that's always on in the background! I haven't done much of anything in the last couple of days because I'm working 12-hour days this week (and I just downloaded Dawn of War 2 for the first time ever!). Will have energy again on Saturday! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4070467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Sorry! That was meant to be on the BA Today thread! Still, starting my wings is the first I've done for a while due to time constraints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4070477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 No photos, but I just finished drybrushing 48 Blood Angels with Tau Light Ochre across the tops of the backpacks, the heads and the hands. Also went over all of the models with a bit of Mephiston Red to fill in the spots I missed with the airbrush. Frustrating to have no real routine for airbrushing yet. I'll work on that and it'll hopefully speed up my painting somewhat! Will aim to get photos up tomorrow when I finish glazing the models. That would pretty much be the red finished. Now to bed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4072009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Sneak peak of where the models are now: http://i.imgur.com/Yz4dottl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/OxvJBYWl.jpg The red's pretty much done. Highlights are reasonably subtle but they're there. I'm happy with how they've come out, given how quickly I'm painting 48 models! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4073360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 I need your level of productivity. I'll trade you for some of your painting ability? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4073386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm focusing on the bases this evening. Couple of hours should be enough to finish them completely. Half an hour in and I have the earth all painted brown: http://i.imgur.com/477Q3KSl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4074345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 So far: http://i.imgur.com/dltTPpol.jpg Just the rims to do. The brown was painted up and I whapped a couple of shades randomly around them. By comparison, here are a couple of my previous models so you can compare the bases: http://i.imgur.com/BMxmsTzl.jpg Once the shades are dry I'll get the rims tidied up with black and I'm all done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4074417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathus Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Nice! They really make your models pop. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4074424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 48 bases finished! http://i.imgur.com/kA9KEo0l.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4074515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Bother. Totally just realised last night I hadn't done any pin washing on these models. So, got twelve done today. Planning to do twelve each day so hopefully by Friday they'll be finished: http://i.imgur.com/6b70hIJl.jpg Helps you see the highlights a bit better, too. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4077624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenshard42 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm kinda a n00b when it comes to painting techniques, but what is pin washing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4077772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm kinda a n00b when it comes to painting techniques, but what is pin washing? It's the fancy name for shading the recesses. The way a lot of people (including myself) learn to paint is to basecoat the whole model and then to cover the entire model in shade. You would then use the original basecoat colour to go back over the model, leaving the shade in the recesses. Pin washing is a process where you basecoat as normal but then, instead of shading the whole model, you only shade in the recesses. There may still be a *bit* of cleanup on the model afterwards (because nobody is a perfect painter!) but it's significantly faster than the first method. It also uses less paint. Only issue is, it's a little bit more fine detail, since you're looking at all the little nooks and crannies and dips and recesses and such around the model. When you get into a rhythm, I guess you could pin wash a model in maybe ten minutes to a decent standard. End result is something like this (left-hand model is bare red, right-hand model is pin washed): http://i.imgur.com/ytYMoTGl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4078238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Honestly, I've never heard it called that and I've been doing it for years. Learn something new every day :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4078239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Twelve more done. Twenty-four done in total, twenty-four to do. *Stretch* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4079480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Twelve more done. Twenty-four done in total, twenty-four to do. *Stretch* keep at it cousin! it will pay off in the end! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4079859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Twelve more done today. I'm now black lining/pin washing a model in a little under ten minutes, which is nice. I had some spare time this evening as I finished the twelve models a little early so I filled in the cracks that were in the missile launchers. I wasn't planning to bother with them, but it was such little effort for potentially a huge difference in the models: http://i.imgur.com/Dgo2cval.jpg All the cracks nicely filled up! When they get painted over you shouldn't be able to see them at all. Also did some scrubbing on the Rhinos that were bathing in Dettol. To give you an idea of how bad the paint job was previously was, I've soaked and scrubbed them twice now, filtered out the Dettol twice and I'm about to soak them for a third time to get the final bits of paint off. They were caked when I got them. Here's the photo that was included in the eBay listing: http://i.imgur.com/5guJqRIl.jpg I'll get the final scrubbing done at the weekend and then get them refurbished before I spray them up. Before then, however, twelve more damn Space Marines to pin wash! Watch this space! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303918-my-blood-angels-painting-blog/page/3/#findComment-4081552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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