Prot Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 So I think another army is getting my new Fire Raptor... perhaps not since the only Chaos flyer I have is the fireturkey. What do you guys think of me putting a Sicaran in a Crimson Slaughter army? It is unpainted and I haven't decided 'who is getting it' so to speak. I'm trying to figure out which of my armies 1) benefits most from it, and 2) it makes sense to get it. The way I figure it, my CS play with World Eaters, so there's that possibility but also the way the CS have been 'raiding' Dark Angel worlds, or any world for that matter, it's plausible they've stolen one.... What do you think as far as its function? Has anyone used one? Do you think it's a real asset for Chaos? Or are the 200 approx points better spent elsewhere? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Its actually pretty good it shreds anything reliant on jink (skimmers fliers fmc) like its nobodys buissness also it can take armoured cremite so u cannot melta it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sicarian is probably one of our best tanks, more reliable armor than a predator especially if you give it armored cermite, and can reliably deal with pretty much any skimmer especially if you give it lascanon sponsons, all for a pretty good pts cost. Don't have one myself but just at face value I'd recommend one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Should I give it Las sponsons? Or Hvy Bolter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 One of my gaming buddies go with heavy bolters then gives it malefic ammo... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Should I give it Las sponsons? Or Hvy Bolter? Neither, just a Dozer Blade and it's a fine tank for 140 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 If it weren't so inefficiant I'd say go for a Faemonically possessed Crimson Slaughter tank Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Should I give it Las sponsons? Or Hvy Bolter? Neither, just a Dozer Blade and it's a fine tank for 140 points. IDK, everyone and their dog pods in melta. At least the ceramite might be a good idea.... no sponsons though? really? Seems like almost a waste. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3963946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jackal Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I use the Malefic Heavy Bolters too. Not cheap no, but 195 points for 15 rending shots on a 'Fast' tank isn't what I'd call a rip off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3964208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 ^indeed especially when 6 of those shots deny jink lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3964290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Should I give it Las sponsons? Or Hvy Bolter? Neither, just a Dozer Blade and it's a fine tank for 140 points. IDK, everyone and their dog pods in melta. At least the ceramite might be a good idea.... no sponsons though? really? Seems like almost a waste. Thing is, it's still a predator chassis. It's not hard to strip 3 hullpoints off an Av13/12 vehicle. Investing 20 points into something you might not use is also something I personally wouldn't advocate. I can understand people want to stick Heavy Bolters and the Ammo on it. 9 rending shots extra is fun, but in the end that's what, 1 rending shot on average extra per turn? While you increase the cost with almost 50% and still die as easily? It's not terrible of course, it's a pretty close call, I simply lean towards "no" here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3965697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I think that the reason people like it is the purely psychological enjoyment of getting that jackpot rending roll. Sure you only expect 1 rend for every 9 shots with BS4, but it has a much higher variance in unsaved wounds inflicted against PA and especially TDA than normal heavy bolters. Sure you "probably" won't roll that jackpot 3+ rends per turn of shooting, but the odds are far from vanishingly small, and you do get that gambler's rush when it happens. Also considering the Sicaran is very expensive (in dollars, not points) people will probably want to give it a few extra goodies to really "see" it wipe something out on the table, and to get your opponent to go "it gets how many shots?" Again, not a super competitive tourny consideration, but for me at least, giving certain units "fun" upgrades just to see if they work is a big part of the enjoyment of the game when I do get to play, especially since I consider 40k completely broken from a competitive standpoint and get my tryhard jollies from Starcraft 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3965727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malios Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I have no dramas with a Sicarian in a Crimson Slaughter army. The Warband spent their first days as renegades annihilating other renegades before officially becoming renegades and annihilating non renegades. Whose to say they didn't find, steal, trade, acquire or ask the dark mechanicum to build them one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3965892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast's Raiders Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I like the Sicaran. One of my friends had a SM squad deep strike a little too close to one and his jaw put a dent in the table when he found out how many rending shots were headed there way. A turn latter he lost a one of his fliers to the rapid track. Now, when I play against him, I use it as bait to draw out his anti-tank units or herd his troops into locations where I'm waiting with bottlenecks or no man's lands. As far as the OP, I thunk it's very helpful to a CS war band and can be very fluffy. My question is, would it be completely painted in CS colors or left in the other army's colors with Chaos icons and stumbles added? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3990842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Aren't the Crimson Slaughter in the vanguard of the push toward making the road to Terra full of daemon worlds and real space destabilizations? In that respect I can see relic war engines given to them by the Warmaster to help accomplish this goal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3990859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Sicaran, not Sicarian, first of all, for some in the comments. Second, it's a pretty sweet vehicle. Good firepower, good cost, and fast is a sweet rule to have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304035-sicaran-tank-for-crimson-slaughter-chaos/#findComment-3991082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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