b1soul Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Is there any rhyme or reason to FW's decision to have Mortarion's model lack Mortarion's iconic rebreather mask? I just find it a bit odd. It's a nice model...but I think it would be even cooler with the rebreather Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think his rebreather is built into the chest piece of his armour. I dunno why they chose to do it that way though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Same question was asked when he was first released. The BL books don't refer to a rebreather (I've not read all, so mainly going off FotE). And why would he wear a rebreather? Seems to go against the idea he is very resilient against toxic atmospheres. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm building a new head for my Morty, complete with a mask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I didn't think he had a rebreather as such, I thought that fumes of gases were released from the collar of his armour for him to inhale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That is what is said in the BL books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 So where is the "iconic" rebreather idea coming from. Or is this a pre BL HH series image? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think the cover of Mortarion's Heart has him in one (as Daemon-Primach). Other than that is it just fan art? At least he doesn't look like the original Epic model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Wasn't it mentioned in the old Index Astartes article? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Any art for him before now had him with a mask, official or not, I'm pretty sure. http://i.imgur.com/VGNILBb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SJcnvdb.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I guess its been hit with the retcon bat since the Black Library took over then. It'd be cool to see it sculpted though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 It would've been cool if they all came with alternate heads, most with the other being a helmet and Mortarions with a respirator. I hope when they do the Khan they do his awesome helmet from Scars, but I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 It was only mentioned that he wore a rebreather on Barbarus, as he couldn't breath in the higher reachs and it rotted away. Nothing about him always wearing it. Either people have just assumed he always wore one (which doesn't make sense) or just think it looks cooler, or there is something else that says he did. As for art work, there is no official artwork, that I'm aware of, that has him in a rebreather while 'human'. I think it's a nice idea if when a daemon he can't breath clean air, and needs poison laced air, which the rebreather thing could sort out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 It was only mentioned that he wore a rebreather on Barbarus, as he couldn't breath in the higher reachs and it rotted away. Nothing about him always wearing it. Either people have just assumed he always wore one (which doesn't make sense) or just think it looks cooler, or there is something else that says he did. As for art work, there is no official artwork, that I'm aware of, that has him in a rebreather while 'human'. I think it's a nice idea if when a daemon he can't breath clean air, and needs poison laced air, which the rebreather thing could sort out. Both of the images fire golem shared are official GW output of him pre-daemonhood. The first is John Blanche and the second clearly says Adrian Smith. Both seem to show a rebreather. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it mentions it in Flight of the Eisenstein? Don't have my copy on me but I seem to remember some mention of it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 It just talks about the thing pumping out Barbarus air into his face. And the censor things that do the same. Fair point of the artwork :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That's what we're talking about in terms of the respirator, the thing that pumps Barbarus air into his face. Just sometimes it's shown as a mask and sometimes as a thing on his chest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Yeah, I think it's just another case of the older fluff having been changed slightly in the newer books. Neither interpretation is the "right" one per se. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I've seen at least one conversion that was extremely effective with a rebreather. He has a superb model either way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That he is, one of my favourite Primarch models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3966983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I've only Ever seen him pictured with a rebreather in artwork, and never seen him without the facemask in artwork. Just look at the cover of blades of the traitor. Does Anybody know if there are any artwork of him without the rebreather? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3967307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I've only Ever seen him pictured with a rebreather in artwork, and never seen him without the facemask in artwork. Just look at the cover of blades of the traitor. Does Anybody know if there are any artwork of him without the rebreather? Pretty much just the picture of him in HH4 Conquest, which is based on the sculpt without the rebreather. Also, Scars does explicitly mention the rebreather, p.350: "An ornate rebreather covered the lower half of his face." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3967321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I knew I'd read it somewhere! I only finished that the other day... Haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3967330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Lol I can't unsee Mortarion talking in a Bane voice to Curze XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3967332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Vengeful Spirit describes it as a rebreather gorget rather than a mask. The John Blanche and Adrian Smith artwork could be taken either way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304199-mortarionno-mask/#findComment-3967335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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