Lord Tharand Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Is the general consensus on the Heavy Conversion Beamer that it's just terrible? I like the idea of my Iron Hands contemptor rocking two of them but the range increments and Firing Calibration on the beamer means I'll rarely see the best results. Have any of you run a contemptor in this configuration? Or would a dual lascannon setup be better? Also, for my Iron Warriors contemptor I'm thinking about DCCW w/ Graviton Guns. This seems really effective and quite fluffy to have a dread storming a breach and murdering face. So with that said I'm just curious about everyone's general experience with different load outs. Thanks in advance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I want to say that the conversion beamer is only permitted on one arm, so you have to take a different weapon too, but I dont have my books with me... Ultimately it runs down to how it will be played. The super assault cannon is beastly if you place him centrally and push him towards the enemy. If he will be back field running at/aa then the dual laz will pay off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3972725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 If you're thinking of super zappy weapons to tie it thematically to the Xth, a conversion beamer & plasma cannon would be super cool No idea how effective it'd be mind... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3972813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I have two conversion beamers sitting in their blisters because I was an idiot, and ordered without checking. My compromise was dual LC. Sure, there's nothing too cool about the good ol' Lascannon, but it makes a mortis a pretty capable heavy weapons platform. I liked the idea of a contemptor swatting things out of the sky with precision instead of sheer weight of fire and rends like you get with the heresy AC. Plus better range can help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3972828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Are melee contemptor a good at all? Also is there a place for the Mortis with the deredo out? The night lords contemptor looks so good that I want to try them out but I don't know any good weapons load outs for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3972939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Are melee contemptor a good at all? Also is there a place for the Mortis with the deredo out? The night lords contemptor looks so good that I want to try them out but I don't know any good weapons load outs for them. Yes they are. They have Fleet, An Invulnerable Save, AV13 and Graviton Gun hand Options (not exclusive to them, mind you) and can take carapace Missile Launcher to boot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3972944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 An DCCW contemptor rocking twin plasma blasters is also pretty solid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3973028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I like Dreadnoughts with a Pair of DCCW's and dual Graviton Guns. Personally i don't think that changes to Contemptor are worth their 50pts (+1 AV and Atomantic Shielding) extra, especially when their ultimate end result will still being ripped apart by haywire, melta or Armourbane. I'd rather put those points into a Dreadnought Drop Pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3973073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Mortis, for the visual impact for me! But mind you, I like any Contemptor chassis and loadout! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3973076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I like Dreadnoughts with a Pair of DCCW's and dual Graviton Guns. Personally i don't think that changes to Contemptor are worth their 50pts (+1 AV and Atomantic Shielding) extra, especially when their ultimate end result will still being ripped apart by haywire, melta or Armourbane. I'd rather put those points into a Dreadnought Drop Pod. I hate the Dreadnought chassis and love the Contemptor chassis. That's worth 50pts to me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3973109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I like Dreadnoughts with a Pair of DCCW's and dual Graviton Guns. Personally i don't think that changes to Contemptor are worth their 50pts (+1 AV and Atomantic Shielding) extra, especially when their ultimate end result will still being ripped apart by haywire, melta or Armourbane. I'd rather put those points into a Dreadnought Drop Pod. I hate the Dreadnought chassis and love the Contemptor chassis. That's worth 50pts to me! Keep in mind too that both the stumpy dreads and contemptors are points priced for a system where "ATSKnF" doesn't exist yet and fearless is hella rare. They pay for the opportunity to sweep big units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3973137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thank you for all the replies! I think I'll avoid the conversion beamer like many of you. It's visually very appealing (and fluffy for the Xth) but it seems so wonky to use. Based on all your feedback I'll probably go in one of three loads; Dual Lascannons or dual DCCW. Although, I'm not against the Plasma/DCCW either but this is a combo that I feel so many of my dreads in 40k have taken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3973233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 correct me if I'm wrong but with so many big blobs of troops running amuck I would have thought that plasma cannons would be pretty ace but I think I'm the only heresy collector in a hundred mile radius so I don't really know Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 correct me if I'm wrong but with so many big blobs of troops running amuck I would have thought that plasma cannons would be pretty ace but I think I'm the only heresy collector in a hundred mile radius so I don't really know I rock a plasma cannon and a DCCW: http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/c7411f20c0c0adee40a6e70528794b00_zps2916c00d.jpg (Shameless plugging) It works really well and the plasma cannon does fantastic against any valuable 2+ save units. You can also fish for a penetrate on side armor 12 if needs demand it. I really like the fist as you can punch valuable tanks and ROFLstomp important units like Siggy/templars when they have little to no cc AT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 correct me if I'm wrong but with so many big blobs of troops running amuck I would have thought that plasma cannons would be pretty ace but I think I'm the only heresy collector in a hundred mile radius so I don't really know There are cheaper and more powerful Plasma Cannons around than a Contemptor, though. Compare Contemptor with Plasma Cannon = 185 Legion Dreadnought with double CCW, Legion Predator with Executioner Plasma Destroyer = 235. So, for another 50pts, you get 2 more plasma shots, and another S10 CC attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Oh, I think I may have misled people with my prior post. I meant running a 2 DCCW with the plasma blasters upgrade on the fists rather than the twin-linked bolters, not a plasma cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Oh, I think I may have misled people with my prior post. I meant running a 2 DCCW with the plasma blasters upgrade on the fists rather than the twin-linked bolters, not a plasma cannon. 4 (2 per fist) Plasma Shots and 1 extra S10 Attack for ~220 points with Av13 Front, Fleet and 5/6++ Decent enough if you have the points. Better option, imo, if facing more 2+ saves than things that would need to get Grav'd / Haywired. 2 Heavy Flamers if your facing Hordes/Blobs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 correct me if I'm wrong but with so many big blobs of troops running amuck I would have thought that plasma cannons would be pretty ace but I think I'm the only heresy collector in a hundred mile radius so I don't really knowI rock a plasma cannon and a DCCW: http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/c7411f20c0c0adee40a6e70528794b00_zps2916c00d.jpg (Shameless plugging) It works really well and the plasma cannon does fantastic against any valuable 2+ save units. You can also fish for a penetrate on side armor 12 if needs demand it. I really like the fist as you can punch valuable tanks and ROFLstomp important units like Siggy/templars when they have little to no cc AT. I like the contemptor! Has a very knight-sequel feel to it. Is that a raven guard contemptor as a base? Also with the deredo is their a place for the Mortis? Don't know if it's cheaper or not. Maybe as close fire support? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thats just the standard Relic Contemptor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kheres and chainfist for me. Blaster if I have the points. My next one is going to be dual claws and blasters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thats just the standard Relic Contemptor. Oh.... Shows how much I actually know about forgeworld models lol. I'll see myself out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kheres and chainfist for me. Blaster if I have the points. My next one is going to be dual claws and blasters. That's what my SoH one will be rocking, the claws and blasters. Oh, and a Missile Launchler Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kheres and chainfist for me. Blaster if I have the points. My next one is going to be dual claws and blasters. That's what my SoH one will be rocking, the claws and blasters. Oh, and a Missile Launchler I'm going to make Ancient Krahzen, a former Moritat, from page 145 of book 3. Because he is awesome. If he ever got rules he should have chainfire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kheres and chainfist for me. Blaster if I have the points. My next one is going to be dual claws and blasters. That's what my SoH one will be rocking, the claws and blasters. Oh, and a Missile Launchler I'm going to make Ancient Krahzen, a former Moritat, from page 145 of book 3. Because he is awesome. If he ever got rules he should have chainfire. Dear Emperor, a Chain Firing Contemptor.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kheres and chainfist for me. Blaster if I have the points. My next one is going to be dual claws and blasters. That's what my SoH one will be rocking, the claws and blasters. Oh, and a Missile Launchler I'm going to make Ancient Krahzen, a former Moritat, from page 145 of book 3. Because he is awesome. If he ever got rules he should have chainfire. Dear Emperor, a Chain Firing Contemptor.... With twin-kheres....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304446-contemptor-loadouts/#findComment-3974895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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