the jeske Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Is that some how impossible to do with other armies? A IoM player can have 3-4+ factions in a single army. Or do you mean something else by their own motivation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3976708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Is that some how impossible to do with other armies? A IoM player can have 3-4+ factions in a single army. Or do you mean something else by their own motivation? Yes now while a imperium army can include several factions generally they want the same goal to be completed where as within a warband one aspiring champion and his men might want to steal some forbidden knowledge while another may want to kill the warbands leader and take control and another may just want to survive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3976766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Simple answer.....while SM players are forced to pay with their souls to GW multiple times a edition to get updated books, GW doesn't care that much about us wheeee Chaos players so we usually only have to buy one book, which means more money for models! WIN! Joking aside... I've been having part of my soul siphoned off by GW since the early days of 3rd edition (easily 15 years now), but back then it was more fantasy. Slowly I got myself into Space Marines in general, to morph into some DA successor chapter, then nids, then my beloved IW and I haven't looked back. Sure there are times when I want to make a BT army...or IF or SW or BA but then I take a step back and think why? Why do I want them and more likely then not its because I see some extremely well done paint job/conversion on the good old interwebs and I want to try and do that. But time and time again Chaos holds my rotten little fortress like heart in its grip and doesn't let go. It's fun to be the bad guy. It's fun to not have so many restrictions when painting/converting. It's even more fun when people throw your dex in the mud but you manage to pick it back up and beat them in a game with it. The fluff, the models (ok not all of them but most of them) and the artwork have always struck a cord with me that I cannot seem to give up on them. While its been many a year since I've thrown models down on the work bench or even a gaming table with the purchase of my house I plan on making a gaming table and diving back into things (just as soon as I work on that giant list my fiancee has made...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3978936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 As a side note I did some crude math based on some of the veterans who have posted in this thread and Wikipedia. Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos I am both in awe of this dedication and reassured as to why my painting is so terrible in comparison with these masters. We are in it for the Long War :lol: Aye, brother. Though I am but a child in comparison to thee, I hope to stand with my cousins of the Nine Legions till the long-awaited coming of the Crimson Path. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3978945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The other thing that we have on our side is that we can freely make up our own characters without contradicting fluff. All major loyalist chapters have defined chapter masters, so taking a custom chapter master requires you to be playing "in the past" or an alternate universe. On top of that as every Astartes chapter has standardized organization even many company captains are "taken" canonically and even if they aren't they can be at any moment. With Chaos, there are so many warbands of the various Legions and renegade factions running about, that you can very plausibly make up your own Warsmiths, Apostles, Lords, and Sorcerers without any possibility of current or future contradiction in fluff. Hell, given the non-standard nature of Chaos forces you can even have lots of people each playing say, the 5th Grand Company (I guess now Battalion) of the Iron Warriors, each with their own Warsmith without it really being a contradiction because the various Heresy era formations have fragmented and each champion could have decided to retain his old unit number and "promoted" himself to leadership over his splinter of it. The ultimate make-your-own-fluff faction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3979059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The other thing that we have on our side is that we can freely make up our own characters without contradicting fluff. All major loyalist chapters have defined chapter masters, so taking a custom chapter master requires you to be playing "in the past" or an alternate universe. On top of that as every Astartes chapter has standardized organization even many company captains are "taken" canonically and even if they aren't they can be at any moment. With Chaos, there are so many warbands of the various Legions and renegade factions running about, that you can very plausibly make up your own Warsmiths, Apostles, Lords, and Sorcerers without any possibility of current or future contradiction in fluff. Hell, given the non-standard nature of Chaos forces you can even have lots of people each playing say, the 5th Grand Company (I guess now Battalion) of the Iron Warriors, each with their own Warsmith without it really being a contradiction because the various Heresy era formations have fragmented and each champion could have decided to retain his old unit number and "promoted" himself to leadership over his splinter of it. The ultimate make-your-own-fluff faction. This right here is the ultimate reason why I chose to play chaos back in the 90s. I thought loyalists were boring and rigid, hehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3979153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Love the background, the whole fallen hero angle, the awesome models, conversion potential Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3981312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 As a side note I did some crude math based on some of the veterans who have posted in this thread and Wikipedia. Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos I am both in awe of this dedication and reassured as to why my painting is so terrible in comparison with these masters. We are in it for the Long War Count me in among those. My Thousand Sons have been going since 1999. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3981743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrack Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 17 years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos Totgeboren 21 years Chaos Forte 24 years Chaos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3981816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 To expound on that, I began playing Blood Angels in 1999 after getting 2nd Ed Space Hulk. I played themfor 6 months or so, until this evil looking marine was staring at me from the codex cover.I looke din, read the fluff, and was hooked. Like space marines, but with the powers of the dark gods, marks, magic. The Story of the Thousand Sons and their paint scheme compelled me, although it was a challenge. My tanks got painted blue night lords, then black legion, while I converted and scrounged rubric marines. My chaos always having a good showing on the tabletop with their summoned daemons. A min-max style army I played led to me starting a new Iron Warriors army in 2004, finally getting them painted after a labour of love converting every model. In 2006, Eldar distracted me for a long while, yet I returned to Chaos. in 2010, the new Blood Angels drew my attention, yet they were not Tzeentch. No matter what army I play, I am always drawn back to chaos. We have the best background, the best colour schemes, and the best modelling opportunities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3981837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disciple of Caliban Sgt Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I have to agree with everyone else that the freedom of play style and types of armies you can have. I originally (before Crimson Slaughter came out as a codex) had decided they would be my faction. I also have a Blood Angels army and I figured I would do a full up loyalist army slowly turning to Chaos. Crimson Slaughter is a perfect example of what I mean. You can have full on Chaos mode with Daemons and such or you can have them closer to when they first turn and they are more like loyalists or anything in between. As others have stated Chaos really is Your army. You make Generic characters and they are fairly awesome. Essentially they are a blank slate do with them as you will. I can see why they give so much guidance in the Loyalist section. Younger kids wanting to start the hobby might have a hard time with all the intricacies (or maybe not as smart as some are), while Chaos lets you go hog wild and ally whoever you want and be as Chaotic as you will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3981868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast's Raiders Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Win or lose, I always had a blast playing. I've tried playing IG, Nods, Necrons, Loyal SMs. For me, it always comes down to freedom of models and conversions. If I want a four armed chosen, I can build one. If I want tentacles or two heads I can raid my bits box. I used to have a Dreadnaut that was built with half the dread and half a Nid Carnafex. Chaos lets my twisted imagination go" let's see what we can make with these bits". As a side note: What size base are Chaos Spawn on? I have a few ideas for some spawn as soon as I can get the bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3985761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Same as Terminators, so 40mm I believe. I really need to get some Spawn myself, just not the kind of silly standard models, I think some Minotaurs would work well, basically giant beastmen found on a daemon world within the Maelstrom and enslaved by the Red Corsairs. See, this is why I play Chaos :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3985786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast's Raiders Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 For my spawn, 2boys aged 8 and 13, broken bits of skylanders, action figures, army men, etc. For Chaos a child's boken toys can add lots to my bits box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I've got Brettonian Knights for Spawn, which oddly enough makes a certain kind of sense following the End Times campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 13+ years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos You forgot to add me. 21 years. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 13+ years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos You forgot to add me. 21 years. :p And me at 24 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Tezdal Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 13+ years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos Tad more then 13 on my part, I started when 3rd was first out, 98 or 99 maybe on 40k? I think it was 5th edition of fantasy still. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 13+ years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos Tad more then 13 on my part, I started when 3rd was first out, 98 or 99 maybe on 40k? I think it was 5th edition of fantasy still. Yes 3rd ed was release in 1998, WD 226 with free Dark Eldar model. With Chaos in White Dwarf 230 (Codex/Oblits/Raptors) & 231 (Berzerker release) & we where still in 5th ed WFB, 6th ed (WFB) was release just after the armageddon world wide campaign. Still one of my many favrout battle report with WD 230, Black Legion vs White Scars on a trench theme gaming table. Still rememeber seeing the table down that Warhammer World as well just wish I got more photos of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 13+ years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos Tad more then 13 on my part, I started when 3rd was first out, 98 or 99 maybe on 40k? I think it was 5th edition of fantasy still. Yes 3rd ed was release in 1998, WD 226 with free Dark Eldar model. With Chaos in White Dwarf 230 (Codex/Oblits/Raptors) & 231 (Berzerker release) & we where still in 5th ed WFB, 6th ed (WFB) was release just after the armageddon world wide campaign. Still one of my many favrout battle report with WD 230, Black Legion vs White Scars on a trench theme gaming table. Still rememeber seeing the table down that Warhammer World as well just wish I got more photos of it. I was in Glasgow for the referendum, and actually took WD 230 and a couple of others with me to read for nostalgic value. Definitely a great battle report. I do have photos somewhere of that... will see if I can dig them out at some point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3986235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagast's Raiders Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 An updated list of the Veterans of the Long War Slayer le Boucher- 17 years Chaos Insane Psychopath- 19 years Chaos Dragonlover- 17 years Chaos Castigor- 27+ years Chaos Chaeron- 20 years Chaos Xenith -16 years Chaos Excessus -20 years Chaos Warsmith Gorrched 15 years Chaos Captain Tezdal 13+ years Chaos Rain 13+ years Chaos Prot 13 years Chaos Tenebris 17 years Chaos Tad more then 13 on my part, I started when 3rd was first out, 98 or 99 maybe on 40k? I think it was 5th edition of fantasy still. Yes 3rd ed was release in 1998, WD 226 with free Dark Eldar model. With Chaos in White Dwarf 230 (Codex/Oblits/Raptors) & 231 (Berzerker release) & we where still in 5th ed WFB, 6th ed (WFB) was release just after the armageddon world wide campaign. Still one of my many favrout battle report with WD 230, Black Legion vs White Scars on a trench theme gaming table. Still rememeber seeing the table down that Warhammer World as well just wish I got more photos of it. I've been playing off and on since 2nd edition. Yes, I'm old. I remember guess range weapons, and the cardstock Ork dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3999419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Only 16 years here (only! lol) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3999453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 One of the Chaos Space Marines in the fluff is a daemon prince with a flaming head riding a motorbike who suddenly warps in and out of our dimension to slaughter hundreds of thousands of people across the universe while most likely doing insane amounts of drugs. Why would you not play Chaos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3999455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachymike123 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 17 year veteran, just throwing that out there too. The other thing that we have on our side is that we can freely make up our own characters without contradicting fluff. All major loyalist chapters have defined chapter masters, so taking a custom chapter master requires you to be playing "in the past" or an alternate universe. On top of that as every Astartes chapter has standardized organization even many company captains are "taken" canonically and even if they aren't they can be at any moment. With Chaos, there are so many warbands of the various Legions and renegade factions running about, that you can very plausibly make up your own Warsmiths, Apostles, Lords, and Sorcerers without any possibility of current or future contradiction in fluff. Hell, given the non-standard nature of Chaos forces you can even have lots of people each playing say, the 5th Grand Company (I guess now Battalion) of the Iron Warriors, each with their own Warsmith without it really being a contradiction because the various Heresy era formations have fragmented and each champion could have decided to retain his old unit number and "promoted" himself to leadership over his splinter of it. The ultimate make-your-own-fluff faction. ^^This. Yes, we have our special characters in the form of Abby, Bile, Khârn etc. But they are mere names in the sea of madness that we call Chaos. Another example would be if using the Dark Angel codex, why does my Chapter Master of the Guardians of the Covenant have the same equipment as Azreal? Our army can be as unique as our imaginations and provides great modelling opportunities in the process. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3999678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther - the fallen Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I always feel so young in this company :P I've only been on the Chaos side since '06.. a few detours along the way, but still keeps getting drawn back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304465-why-play-chaos/page/3/#findComment-3999733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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