GhostMalone Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The Sons' of Perturabo http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-03-16%2011.27.10_zpsint1v9cf.pngWe call ourselves Homo sapiens--man the wise--because our intelligence is so important to us. For thousands of years, we have tried to understand how we think: that is, how a mere handful of matter can perceive, understand, predict, and manipulate a world far larger and more complicated than itself. The field of artificial intelligence, or AI, goes further still: it attempts not just to understand but also to build intelligent entities.-Attributed to the works of Kel'Mayson, Firstborn of the IVTH, son of Terra, Brother of Thunder. Affectation naturally counterfeits those excellences which are placed at the greatest distance from possibility of attainment, because, knowing our own defects, we eagerly endeavor to supply them with artificial excellence - Centurion Arkarion, Master of the Iron Reach, Son of Olympia, Last of his Lineage. People who have realized that this is a dream imagine that it is easy to wake up, and are angry with those who continue sleeping, not considering that the whole world that environs them does not permit them to wake. Life proceeds as a series of optical illusions, artificial needs and imaginary sensations. -Honoured Obestrix, First of the Interred, Last of The First. We live longer than our forefathers; but we suffer more from a thousand artificial anxieties and cares. They fatigued only the muscles, we exhaust the finer strength of the nerves. - Self Exiled Mortriat Arcamedeus, The Burden of Failure, The Sin of Life. Welcome to My IVth Legion Blog, this will be a project to coincide with my other multiple projects and continue my pursuit of bettering my painting and building skills.This is a blank slate project with no pre conceived ideas etc.I would like input from the community for every aspect and step.Regards,TaronJaspcatKurama. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Loyalist or Traitor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Do something other than artillery/tanks, breachers, or sappers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Or, do what you want to do... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantioch Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Awesome! More Iron Warriors, looking forward to see what you are going to do Glory to the IVth, brother! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Or, do what you want to do... I would like input from the community for every aspect and step. Do something other than artillery/tanks, breachers, or sappers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Maybe a flanking force, kind of a hunter/killer group used for actions not specifically related to sieges or urban combat. So, we're looking at the likes of mechanised infantry and armoured/aerial support. Sound any good? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Is this a purely for fun build or will you be using them in games? If for fun, how about something abit 'unique' and 'niche' to the Iron Warriors, maybe heavy weapon raptor squads? would be a cool blend of rapid movement tied with anti armor capabilities. Or just assault squads in general. Also spotter teams and a dreadnought geared up for ranged support may be nice? All the best with your project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantioch Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Since your looking for suggestions, the IW army I'm building will have a mix of fast and slow units. I imagine assault squads and destroyers moving ahead of the main force bounding over walls and bunkers while the second heavier wave crashes through the defences purging any survivors. Kind of like Aximands company in the main battle in Vengeful Spirit where the assault squads are roaring over the heavier units. Again its your army and I look forward to seeing what your force will specialise in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Maybe an army based around (one of) the four brotherhoods. That could go from an automata/cybernetics-heavy Apolakron, to Kheledakos boarding teams, to whatever horrific weapons the Lyssatra's burned men built. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Do them as a ragtag team of survivors, one a born leader, another with a knack for infiltrating, one with a wild streak, and the last a no nonsense tough guy who's secretly afraid of heights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Fill your HQ's with 3 Vigilators for 3x D6 pre-game hits to stuff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 So here you are at last jasp, clad in iron, with only bitter hatred in your hearts... As for ideas for a list: 3 Chaplains. 3 apothecarys. Contemptor talons. 3 Maxed out breacher squads. Whatever fast attack you like. 3 spartans. Load breachers, doctors and preachers in the spartans and ATTACK!!? :) In all seriousness though, take a look at your other projects and armies, and ask yourself "what haven't i tried yet?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 So here you are at last jasp, clad in iron, with only bitter hatred in your hearts... As for ideas for a list: 3 Chaplains. 3 apothecarys. Contemptor talons. 3 Maxed out breacher squads. Whatever fast attack you like. 3 spartans. Load breachers, doctors and preachers in the spartans and ATTACK!!? In all seriousness though, take a look at your other projects and armies, and ask yourself "what haven't i tried yet?" Now just add in a Praetor/Delegatus for the Wrath of Olympia rite of war so you can rapid fire those breachers and then assault :P And add a Sicaran/other Heavy Support to take full advantage of the rite. Hehe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Problem is, only 3 HQ slots. So its either full-on Chappies or one squad gets the Preator /Delegatus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would run wild with a Pride of the Legion termi build with Perturabo. MORE CYCLONE MISSILE LAUNCHERS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Seems like a good start for an Apolakron-themed IVth Legion Army with Narik Dreygur, some Castellax and Mechanicum (Legio Cybernetica) allies. A Vigilator Centurion with jump pack could set up a unit of Ursarax for one nasty 1st turn charge with his 12" scout move. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Reyner- I'm not phased really which way this force goes in all honesty, I want to treat it as a wait and see project as the IW still haven't been (fleshed) out as such. BCK- well I did have an epiphany what about an aerial assault/insertion task force, this way I can use the ziphon fighter etc and still have some iron havocs and tyrant siege terminators. Or I have an idea of a mannequin soldier force, marines that are just fleshy meat sacks given AI to turn them into deamon machine creatures. Dantioch- well I've been watching a lot of AI movies and I am starting to actually hate technology, seeing everyone being subsumed by it I thought how long till we are part of the machine and not willingly apart of it, the Iron hands are willing to fuse with the machine, what if there were IW ripped of soul and purpose then turned over to the machine. olis- this could work with my insertion group idea I think this could be a winner The son of dorn- I'd like to make this a fun project but still within the realm of table top playable, I currently have a dereddeo in front of me and im thinking squads of despoilers will be best suited for this force. dantioch- I like that approach I'm very much thinking that jetbikes are a must maybe even drop pods and destroyers? Skalpyknock- I haven't looked much into the brotherhoods, but that may work with the mannequin soldier ideas, also can lead to eventual obliterators. Dusk raider- my only issue with survivors is that it would pull more towards a loyalist viewpoint, I was considering utilizing AI and the New consul models as reasoning behind them not yet being loyalist or traitor, I see it as an AI with a ghost in the program slowly evolving into sentience, could be warp based or could be like the men of iron. Slipstream- do you want me to get killed by my LGS? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 But...but...but.. Look, if its only 3 Vigilators and a ton of Artillery they shouldn't be that miffed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Aerial insertion- Iron havocs destroyers and heavily equipped marines that get dropped into a target for maximum damage then retreat while being covered by dereddeo xiphon and jetbikes as they pull back from the destroyed objectives So, essentially, you'd have a force of two parts - the insertion force and the retrieval group. What sort of size project do you anticipate this being? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Dusk raider- my only issue with survivors is that it would pull more towards a loyalist viewpoint, I was considering utilizing AI and the New consul models as reasoning behind them not yet being loyalist or traitor, I see it as an AI with a ghost in the program slowly evolving into sentience, could be warp based or could be like the men of iron. Well... technically I was alluding to the A-Team, but that works too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3978640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain mortis Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Paint them yellow...with a black trim ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3979244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Paint them yellow...with a black trim ;-) good idea actually, the color of piss and fear will decieve the enemy into thinking he faces warriors that cower behind walls and turn to run away easily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3979266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I like both ideas, and they don't look mutually exclusive: use the first's fluff with the second's crunch. Fast-moving, hard-hitting, tech-zombies. I'm already liking it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3979502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Looking forward to this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304674-bound-to-iron-and-the-machine/#findComment-3979992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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