Heavy Weapon Teams

[march10k]

~sigh~ Precision of language, people. I think a significant number of the heavy weapons team references in this thread actually refer to heavy weapons squads, and it makes for a skull-splitting logic exercise trying to sort through it all and figure out what everyone intends to say... A heavy weapons team is one model, may be taken by just about every different type of squad-limit one. A heavy weapons squad is a squad consisting of three heavy weapons teams...and no meat shields.

The only use I can find for heavy weapons squads is that a stormlord has a capacity of 40 infantry, along with 30 firepoints. That's six heavy weapons squads, if you do the math.....~evil grin~

Other than that, as has been mentioned...three T3/5+ models with no meatshields, the destruction of which represents not only measurable reduction of your firepower, but also easy first blood...they're not a smart choice.

Heavy weapons teams, on the other hand, are great. My favorite unit is a veteran squad with forward sentries, an autocannon, and a chimera. Most of the time, the sentries will occupy the upper floor of a ruin for 3+ cover and sweeping fields of fire while the chimmy says "thank you for 'objective secured' status" and maneuvers to, ahem, secure an objective. Alternatively, if the template threat is high (hellhounds, hell turkeys, etc), the vets stay on board and fire the autocannon from the hatch.

March, I'm a bit confused. Maybe that's just the CDAT in me but aren't you describing the special weapon upgrade for the squad ie flamer, grenade launcher? Even though a squad can take a HWT and a Platoon can take a HWS.

One CDAT to another, your confusion confuses me, lol...

Ok, one base with a heavy weapon, a gunner, and a loader/spotter/assistant gunner on it is a HWT (counts as a single model, which is dumb, but whatever)...command squads of all sorts, infantry squads, and veteran squads may take one HWT each, which is a separate allowance from their allowances for special weapons (I think it's your introduction of special weapons into the picture that has me scratching my head)...completely separate from that, there is a HWS, consisting of three HWTs, nothing more and nothing less. Each platoon may take up to five HWSs. Clear as mud?

Anyway, my frustration was that various posters were using HWT to refer both to HWT and HWS...starting with the OP, who appears to be asking a question about HWSs, but refers to them as HWTs... Makes it really hard to tell when people are talking about HWT and when they are talking about HWS when they call both of them HWT!!!

[Chefzilla]

March,

 

We're on the same page, sir! This is why I stick with an armor heavy list. All this squishy crap is too complicated for me diesel fume clogged brain.