BFeeder Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Also, does anyone else find it somewhat irritating that the Ultras get a full spectrum of shoulder pads before their book drops, whereas the RG are still waiting for theirs, almost 2 books after their release? To be fair, the XIX already have some excellent Forgeworld kits, such as their veteran upgrade set and even Korvydae who I think would make an awesome Praetor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Also, does anyone else find it somewhat irritating that the Ultras get a full spectrum of shoulder pads before their book drops, whereas the RG are still waiting for theirs, almost 2 books after their release? To be fair, the XIX already have some excellent Forgeworld kits, such as their veteran upgrade set and even Korvydae who I think would make an awesome Praetor. True, but the upgrade pack is only useful of you want to do Mk VI armour which, though iconic for the RG, was only used in very limited numbers pre-Istvaan, leaving your options rather limited if you want to do an earlier force (or just want to use the cool, non-40k armour marks). As for Korvydae, he's a nice model, npot gonna dispute that. But I would want to use him in a 30k force, as he's wearing Mk VII armour with a distinctly post-Heresy jump pack (which is the real deal breaker), and so would look rather anomalous in the 30k force waering Mks II-IV. The overarching point being, why are FW so slow to do shoulder pads? I would think they'd be amongst the easiest things to design/produce, and they'd be a great way to show Legions still waiting for their time in the sun (or actual models, in the case of the RG) that they haven't been forgotten. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Well, hopefully, when the Iron Havocs are released, they'll get a full kit (or a kit similar to that standard MK kits, to allow any heavy weapon kits to be used), which IVth Legion players can use to make their infantry look more Iron Warrior specific. Then the torso / head kits can be used to add a bit of variation, in a similar way to how the majority of Iron Hands gamers seem to use the full MK III Iron Hands kit, with the odd piece from the torso / head upgrade kits. We already know from Narik that FW can do pretty awesome IW infantry, and there are some sketches from their design studio floating around which show they know the right direction to take the Iron Warriors in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 True, but the upgrade pack is only useful of you want to do Mk VI armour which, though iconic for the RG, was only used in very limited numbers pre-Istvaan, leaving your options rather limited if you want to do an earlier force (or just want to use the cool, non-40k armour marks). Fair enough. Given that they were previewed at the recent HH Weekender, there shouldn't be much of a wait for the Raven Guard MKII-VI pads. If anything, the XIX will actually have more variant sets of Legion-specific pads than anyone else. The overarching point being, why are FW so slow to do shoulder pads? I would think they'd be amongst the easiest things to design/produce, and they'd be a great way to show Legions still waiting for their time in the sun (or actual models, in the case of the RG) that they haven't been forgotten. Oh, I totally agree. it would be nice of FW to release the remaining Legions who do not have pads yet. I suppose they have their reasons, but hopefully the XIII Legion pads sell so well that they decide to release the remaining Legions' pads before their respective book(s). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Cool! forgeworld is doing DJ miniatures now........wait, darn it's Scyllax, not skrillex. oh well, they're ok I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Man, I'm pretty let down by these uninspired IW releases. It's pretty clear FW doesn't have a unified vision for them. Compared to some other legions these aren't based on any of the old sculpts or art direction. http://i.imgur.com/q4s6gyn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/D6vUTop.jpg vs http://i.imgur.com/9gobnPE.jpg I'm considering replacing my shoulder pads with Iron Hand symbols and rebranding as 'traitor hands'. Between these models and the rules I'd rather play something better supported. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I see the reason to throw up the ?!?!?! about the torsos, but those heads are awesome. Can't please 'em all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Those "skulls" are going on the Berserkers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 They look like Necron faces. It almost seems as though FW is hinting that's where the IVth drew their inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I said it here or in another thread but the Cheeks on the 2nd row helms go too high; makes em look a bit silly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Guess I'll continue using Death Guard torsos. Funny how all their specific things look better for the Fourth than dedicated Iron Warriors bits (lookin' at you, Contemptor, though ours' not really bad, once painted). As for the heads, the targeter MkII and the MkIVs don't look half bad, but why did they have to go all "iron masks for the iron mask fortress"? These will look better on Night Lords. Really better. Death Guard torsos and Iron Hands heads it'll be, which given the presence of Xth, XIth, and XIVth forces in my detachment will get some chances to be painted in their original colors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Looks like this release was all for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3982828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I echo the many comments about the torsos. Quite like the helmets though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3983136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boater Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 When I think of Iron Warriors, I think spartan (much like my XIVth), heavily armored, and well geared. Between the Contemptor that was built by the Orks, poorly motifed helms, and now torsos that look more like they belong with the homebrew IInd Legion armies I see pop up on here (due to that star on the chest), it makes me think that FW has even less direction with the army than GW does. I'm sorry, but if I were an Iron Warriors player, I'd be irate. Especially when Imperial Fists have gotten some amazing kits. Funny, iron warriors getting irate over the fist getting love... Maybe that's what the intention behind this release was 0_o -The Boater Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3983151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain mortis Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Ordered the heads, will be using the targeter heads and the mkiv (no way they are mkii) heads for sgts and vexilla bearers...but gonna sell the skull face ones..they look a bit out of place.. Guess like the majority, will be using deathguard and iron hands bitz to make my havocs... Really contemplating ordering the new mechanicum unit...a couple of units of 8 of them as allies might be interesting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304878-forgeworld-releases-20032015-scyllax-guardian-automata/page/2/#findComment-3983177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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