Banks Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hey everyone,So i've been practicing with my airbrushing skills and preshading(with black paint on white prime) on my CSM. The problem i am running into is,that my preshading is either lost completely to my base color,or i get a grainy paintjob where the black still looks sorta evident,but its still providing some kind of shading,just not a clean looking on. So i was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of what i should be doing to improve this skill. Oh,also,i'm using Citadel paints i've thinned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Galfridus Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 some tips I've found help. Make sure the black fades into the white to create a nice transition. Use fewer layers to keep the shading. The high points will still be very light compared to just spraying a flat colour. What colour are you trying to shade? Yellow works best with a brown preshade green works well with a dark red. Black isn't always the answer. And there's no problem with using thinned gw before everyone chips in telling you that the technique is easier with a pre thinned brand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 First off thank you for the quick response. I'm using a color I mixed,it's a light pink with a hint of purple ( emp children,white,druchii violet) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Don't forget that you can pre highlight too, do that after the shading to help smooth the transitions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't typically do this (haven't used an airbrush on minis) but I agree with Stobz - better to prime black and pre-highlight, rather than the other way around (you can also do this with a brush by drybrushing white over a black undercoat). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hmm I'll give that a try as well,but right now my issue is that I either lose the pre shading completely with a good liking base,or keep the shading showing but my base looks grainy and not that good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 It might sound like a broken record, but thin your paints. When painting a lighter color over a darker one, several thin coats are better than one thick one. the idea is that you want to put on a lot of pigment without a thick layer - and many thin coats will help to achieve that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Truckin Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 This is how I've started painting all of my cultists and Chosen I end up thinning all of my paints to the consistency of washes. 50-50 water to paint. Then it's only 1-2 coats to get the coverage I like. ( A few more coats for black armor ) Before I started thinning the paints way down I would lose all of my pre-shading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Especially with preshading, or even highlighting over a layer, thin paints are important. Since the idea is that you want some of the underlying tone to show through, you need to be able to apply a highlight layer that doesn't completely obscure the underlying layer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Hmm okay,i have thinned my paints down,but i guess just not enough..i'll have to try thinning them down some more. Though,what PSI would you guys suggest for this and how far back do you keep the brush away from the model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3983843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Galfridus Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 For psi you want to be around 10-15. Keeping it low helps you thin the paint as any thicker just won't spray. For brush distance that's trial and error. Far enough away so it doesn't spider close enough that the paint doesn't dry before it hits the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304916-preshading-questions/#findComment-3984150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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