Chronos Darkhelmet Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Here is my WiP SW list! Any comments are appreciated LEGIONES ASTARTES RULE: Furious ChargeRITE OF WAR: Pride of the LegionHQPraetor (paragon, LC, halo, lasers, jetbike) 230Centurion (Chappy, Cataphractii) 120Centurion (Medicae, Cataphractii, Burning Claws) 160TROOPS10 CataTermies (3 CFs, 7 PFs) 39010 Vets (bombs, 2 meltaguns, Tank Hunters, sarge with ArtA & PF, vexilla) 290DEDICATED TRANSPORTSpartan (DB, TLHF, auxiliary drive, ceramite, flare shield) 355ELITESContemptor-Mortis Dreddy (2 Kheres ACs) 180FAST ATTACK8 Jetbikes (bombs, 2 culverins, sarge with PF) 400HEAVY SUPPORT1 LR Proteus (TLHF, DB, auxiliary drive, ceramite) 255WW Scorpius (DB) 120TOT 2500Chappy & Medicae go with Termies into the Spartan, Praetor is obviously in the JBs, Vets go into the Proteus If you think that jetbikes are in to mimic 40k wolves on wolves (the TWC) then yea, you right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolSkalatrax Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 my thoughts: 1. LC on praetor is a Lightning claw? i think it not worth it, paragon strikes on initiative so just pay for another attack isn't useful, i think 2. meltas on vets. most of the vehicles in 30k have ceramite, so smth like plasmas, or sniper HB's can be more useful. 3. Contemptor with Kheres, i'm big fan of contemtor and hate The Boat miniature of Deredeo, but it really better since it have longer range and bette S and Sunder. so against flyers it better 4. for some of this upgrades u can drop auxiliary drivers, they just not worth their points, IMHO, and u can drop vexilia from vets and give 'em fearless usr. also, drop some PF's from Cata's couse 3 Chain fists are not better than two, and not better than one if u fight smth less then Knight. 5. for catas u can take some combo-plasmas of combo flamers. everything is IMHO, i don't have much experience with playing heresy, but i think it's basic things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'd maybe take Burning Claw if you were insistent on having an Lclaw. It gives +1S for a S6 Charge. You aren't taking a Forge Lord so no RadNades. You don't want the Medicae in combat where he can challenge sniped. Seriously. I do it all the time with Sevatar, and I'm assuming people do with Sigismund all the time. Just give him a normal pai of LClaw IMHO as that way he can properly pile in and have fun. You have a lot of Terms. Maybe take some Plasma blasters to strip wounds from enemy terminators? I'd also drop maybe 4 Powerfists from them. You have Chainfists anyway, so that many fists... whoa. Not only to save points, but as ablative wounds, but also for more at Initiative AP3 to take enemy infantry, even the PAxe gives you a 2+ to wound. Remember that the Proteus is not an Assault vehicle. Only the Phobos is the assault vehicle for Land Raiders. Contemptor Mortis; Deredeo do it better. Having said that, you are severely lacking in EI killing power. While a Deredeo with an Aiolos is nearly equal to it against infantry, but better versus everything that isn't AV14+ the Kheres Mortis is 40pts cheaper. You need more boots on the ground. 2 Scoring units is not enough. At 2500pts, people are gearing up to take on multiple knights, Legion Flyers, primarchs, multiple castellax or Triaros/Krios spam. 10 TEQs and 10 MEQ's are nothing, especially when things like the Typhon removes the Armour and Cover from the Jetbikes, and the FNP and Armour from the Terminators. Your three dangerous units dead with relative ease, that leaves you with 6 Lascannons, 2 Kheres and a Scorpius to win a battle with. The current competative meta would be very unforgiving to this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos Darkhelmet Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hi guys, thanks for the comments! Yea you're right on all points, and actually here in Italy the metagame is becoming much more competitive even in HH as times goes on (first Taghmata and Knight-only army lists are appearing and causing troubles) So I've decided to re-elaborate my list in this way: LEGIONES ASTARTES RULE: Furious ChargeRITE OF WAR: Armoured Spearhead HQ Centurion (Burning Claws, Scimitar Jetbike, Refractor Field, Delegatus) 170 Command Squad (5x Chosen, 5x Charnabal Sabre, Scimitar Jetbikes, Melta Bombs) 365 TROOPS Tactical Squad (10x Space Marines, swap bolters with pistols & CCWs, sarge with ArtA & PF) 175 Tactical Squad (10x Space Marines, swap bolters with pistols & CCWs, sarge with ArtA & PF) 175 DEDICATED TRANSPORTS Land Raider Phobos (Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade) 275 Land Raider Phobos (Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade) 275 FAST ATTACK Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter (Battle Servitor Control, Ground-Tracking Auguries, 6x Kraken Penetrator Hvy Missiles) 235 HEAVY SUPPORT Artillery Tank Squadron (2x Medusa) 310 Predator Strike Armoured Squadron (3x Predators, 3x Armoured Ceramite, 3x Dozer Blade, 3x Lascannon pairs) 420 Whirlwind Scorpius (Dozer Blade) 120 TOT 2500 Now the tactics are more tank-oriented, with quite a lot of big guns to deal with more or less anything that walks the soil Once the list was what you see at 1st post just because Italian players wanted to leave the HH meta for fun only, but that's not possible anymore now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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