EnterRehab Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 My list comes in just shy of my intended points. Is it better to drop the personal teleporter on 1 NDK to make points for two incinerators and a squad of interceptors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Sorry but I struggle to see how those points stack up. 10 interceptors with 2 incinerators cost almost 9 times as much as a personal teleporter for the NDK. In my experience the personal teleporter is a mandatory upgrade. It's the difference between being in your face turn 1,or spend an inordinate amount of time slogging across the board. Not to mention making him jump for the extra 6 inch movement and allowing him to jump over blocking units Edit: never write on mobile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3993972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterRehab Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sorry but I struggle to see how those points stack up. 10 interceptors with 2 incinerators cost almost 9 times as much as a personal teleporter for the NDK. In my experience the personal teleporter is a mandatory upgrade. It's the difference between being in your face turn 1,or spend an inordinate amount of time slogging across the board. Not to mention making him jump for the extra 6 inch movement and allowing him to jump over blocking units Edit: never write on mobile. I didn't go into detail. I was just asking if it's worth 10 interceptors with 2 incinerators. I asked if it was worth losing the personal teleporter to make room for 2 incinerators and a squad of interceptors. My goal points is about 20 over it's goal. and the only place I can cut costs in personal teleporter. By removing that, I can make room for an interceptor squad, 2 incinerators on a squad of purifiers. I also could drop a sword to make room for a daemonhammer. Specific numbers: 1565 points, goal is 1550. This is with everything added that I want (minus the two incinerators) By dropping a PT from one NDK, it puts me at 1535. Adding two incinerators puts me back up to 1545, leaving me with 5 points to work with. I can mash up numbers to make it work to fit a daemon hammer on a terminator. just have to find 5 points to drop. Could also just add an incinerator to one interceptor to put me at 1550 exactly. (keep in mind, my enemies mostly play Xenos. This list is just a matter of them going "ugh. really?" I have no intent to win, but I do intend on making it hard.) List, for visualization: ++ Grey Knights: Codex (2014) (Nemesis Strike Force) ++ + HQ + Librarian [Nemesis warding stave, Psyker [ML 2]] + Elites + Purifier Squad [2x Purifier (sword)] Knight of the Flame [Nemesis force sword] 2x Purifier (incinerator) [2x Incinerator] + Troops + Terminator Squad [3x Terminator (sword)] Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon] Terminator Justicar [Nemesis force sword] + Fast Attack + Interceptor Squad [3x Interceptor (sword)] Interceptor (incinerator) [incinerator] Interceptor Justicar [Nemesis force sword] Stormraven Gunship [Twin-linked assault cannon, Twin-linked heavy bolter] + Heavy Support + Nemesis Dreadknight [Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon hammer and power fist, Personal teleporter] Nemesis Dreadknight [Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon hammer and power fist, Personal teleporter] + LoW + Knight Errant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3994073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 You are better off dropping a weapon than dropping a PT. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3994099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 No. Dreadknights never leave Titan without a nemesis weapon, a teleport and a heavy psycannon. Janus even says so in the Liber. 'Lo, and no Dreadknight will ever be slow, or fail to stab his target to death with his mind, or fail to kill anything with his gun' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3994196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmagi Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Personally I find that without the nemesis weapons the your going to struggle if your opponent brings any mc's drop the gatling psylincer to save points instead and at least put hammers on your dreadknights as then at least they can force weapon opposing mc's Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3994837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterRehab Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 I updated the list in post #3. I need to drop 5 points to make it fit into 1550- i assume the only thing worth dropping is 1 of the incinerators on the purifier squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3995139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Eh, I'd drop the incinerators on the purifiers. Cleansing Flame is the only fire they need, shouldn't be much left in range after that to flame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3995524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Yeah pretty much. Purifiers are already Sternguard price and are better than them in every measurable way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305400-deciding-between-a-squad-of-interceptors-and-ndk-teleporter/#findComment-3996258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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