Ordo Machinum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I've got 20 tactical legionnaires as well as 3 support squads in varying stages of assembly. (600ish points assuming I splurge on heavy weapons?) Would be nice to actually get around to painting something! 10 tacticals with power armour, bolter, bolt pistol, frag & krak = 150 points 5 seekers with power armour, bolter, bolt pistol, frag & krak = 175 points 2 x 5-man seekers = 350 points compared to 10-man tactical of 150 points, 4 x 5-man seekers = 700 points compared to 2 x 10-man tacticals = 300 points, etc, etc, etc... They're both armed the same, so nothing prevents you from using them later as tacticals. Just make them now as seekers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Or twenty praetors with AA and bolt pistols? Though that might be considered ever so slightly beardy. Dallo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky27 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I have a praetor, chaplain, 10 red butchers, 60 tacticals, 3 Spartans and a deredeo. The real question is how much of that I can actually get painted in the time frame so as not to fail lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Id do butchers and a spartan as one vow, 20 tacs and a tank as a second, and characters as third as a bonus to yourself? Still a good chunk done, sounds more reasonable on the brain than a 60 man blob! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 So making sure I've got the gist of point maxing going here, and with the bits I have/will have when ETL hots up... Heavy Support Squad - 135 Marines x4 with Volkite Culverin - 40 Sergeant with Nuncio Vox and C-Blade (0), Artificer Armour (10), Augury Scanner (5), Melta Bombs (5), Combi-Weapon (10), Plas Pistol (15), and Power Fist (minus C-Blade, 15) Hardened Armour - 25 Bringing them in as a legal squad of 5 men for 260 pts (assuming all parts are represented as necessary). Have I got the spirit of it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eponymous M Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Or twenty praetors with AA and bolt pistols? :devil: Though that might be considered ever so slightly beardy. :P Dallo As a player who cut their teeth on Rogue Trader and 2nd edition, this sounds like a fair and balanced army list. Is there no way to give them all cyclone missile launchers too? Joking aside, I think I could manage at least 5 seekers from the spares I have knocking around; I assume that most people would consider adding a cloak, sight an silencer sufficient to distinguish them as Seekers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ok I'm thinking Lorgar Transended, body guard Catraphractii, Kor Phaeron 10 Catraphractii, and Erebus. Circle of evil.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Certainly. I'd be happy to play them as seekers. I look forward to seeing what you manage to build from your spares, M. Dallo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think you guys may need to re-examine the spirit of the ETL, rather than just the rules WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think you guys may need to re-examine the spirit of the ETL, rather than just the rules WLK ^^^ This. While yes, getting more points mileage out of your vows is nice...dont powergame it. Its a friendly inter-sub challenge, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 My circle of evil is fully fluffy I think you will find. Also guy you got to remember its WYSIWG. So it all has to be modelled. So my Transended Lorgar will need to be converted to show he has the full blessing of the Gods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3995937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Indeed, the goal of ETL is to get fraters to paint their models, not see who can squeak the most points out and loophole the rules to win. Be the better sub forum guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Also over the last 2 years, which have been the only 2 years the heresy sub forum has competed, we here have built a reputation of producing top quality models. We are of the great crusade, a time when the Imperium was creating the best and most beautiful artificer armour, we are the age of heroes, and our models represent that. Not saying we paint Golden Daemon standard just that love and care goes into our work and it always shows no matter the persons ability. Also remember that we pay possibly the most out of all the other sub forums for our models. It is better to complete 10 models you love rather then 20 you hate for the sake of the competition. At then end of the day, vow what YOU want, even if the points don't add up to the maximum they could, because this is for your army. No one here will care if you could have used combi bolters for more points, we just want to see your models given all the love and attention you can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think you guys may need to re-examine the spirit of the ETL, rather than just the rules WLK Sorry, I've been communing with the Machine Spirit too much lately. Numbers, numbers, numbers... I think you guys may need to re-examine the spirit of the ETL, rather than just the rules WLK ^^^ This. While yes, getting more points mileage out of your vows is nice...dont powergame it. Its a friendly inter-sub challenge, after all. Message received: If you can't vow something nice.... (shuffles bunny feet) Indeed, the goal of ETL is to get fraters to paint their models, not see who can squeak the most points out and loophole the rules to win. Be the better sub forum guys. I hear what you're saying. You're right. My eyes were bigger than my stomach. Where do I think I am? [EXPURGATED] forum? Slightly tarnished and bent part of the ship... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I will probably actually start my Iron Hands and Iron Warriors models! I'm the worst at this time sensitive painting events. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It's all good man, just remember, it doesn't matter if we win or not, they'll all still be jealous of our volkites anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Right, well my Casual Challenge pledge for this month is AUTEK GODDAMN MOR, 5 Gorgons and an Iron Father, and that's just for a month, so I reckon I could throw some more in. I do have Erebus sitting bare, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Well its not starting yet, May I think. Lord Tharand, either am I. Start small, that way you feel less pressure. Not that you should its all just for fun and no one cares if you fail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Allright to be clear I'm all for maximum points but as stated were not here to troll. Still build your armies and stuff etc, im just suggesting little things that are beneficial anything like the tacs as seekers is not what we are aiming for. The whole point of this thread is to pre plan your ETL vows think about your purchases and help stoke rivalries and unite our forum rather than each of us working as separate entities. The spirit of ETL should not be power gamed or any math hammer. I still expect us to Produce quality like previous years so let us remember this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Got a bit overzealous there but I'm a Templar its bit odd if I'm not overzealous. On eBay I can get quite a few rogue trader era rhino for a better price than a regular rhino. Also I was planning on buying a catpractii set but I noticed that there is no set for power swords, what do you guys use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Got a bit overzealous there but I'm a Templar its bit odd if I'm not overzealous. On eBay I can get quite a few rogue trader era rhino for a better price than a regular rhino. Also I was planning on buying a catpractii set but I noticed that there is no set for power swords, what do you guys use? Power Axes since they cost the same as Power Swords and/or Mauls and are cheaper than Power Fists if your on a budget. If you really want swords, get Grey Knight Terminator Swords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Zealous passion is no crime brother Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I was overcome by dolphin madness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I was overcome by dolphin madness. "So long, and thanks for all the fish..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hmm I've had my Horus and Konrad Curze models sitting here staring me in the face for some time now.... Plus I'm planning to pick up a Fire Raptor and a knight titan or 2 for my NL too...plus I have some Terminators and Terror Squad marines that need finishing too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305414-etl-iv-propaganda-motivation-and-preperation-thread/page/3/#findComment-3996368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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