Ishagu Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Should I notify forgeword? I was bitten once by fakes, and the models being sold clearly are. I own the real Forgeword piece, and the rubbish being sold on ebay is clearly of lower quality, and the resin doesn't look right... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Up to you. I guess it really depends on how much you care/whether or not you can be bothered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Someone will probably buy those, unknown to him/her that they are fakes. It's not good for the hobby... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Then why are you even asking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Well, I'm not sure if I'm being petty... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Unfortunately, reporting it is unlikely to have any effect other than cause the recaster/eBay to close that account, only to pop up under another account within days. Most FW recasters are out of China, Hong Kong, and Russia, and few if any have an eBay feedback rating in the double digits (and none I'm aware of has hit triple digits). It's a big caveat emptor situation. Just make sure they show it in/with the original FW packaging, and you've got a better chance of getting the real deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 If people are looking for the real deal, they wouldn't be on eBay anyway - they would be on the FW site. As for recasters, though I do find it somewhat condemnable, they understand supply and demand and more often than not help get more people into the 30k hobby. But I won't get up on a soapbox and preach the moralities of recasting practices. FW likely patrols eBay an has already gotten rid of quite a few places. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I don't think that's necessarily fair. I've been bitten by fakes more than a few times buying 'second hand basecoated' stuff and bits and so forth from eBay for conversions. Really frustrating. My opinion? Do it. With the rumoured death of the current incarnation of Fantasy, GW seems to be acting more and more like a profit-driven business, which means that as soon the Heresy-era stuff stops making them as much money, they'll put less and less into new product. If making life difficult for an eBayer is enough to discourage them from selling bootleg resin, then for the sake of the greater hobby I reckon it's worth doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've reported re-casters before. ForgeWorld will take action against the sellers, but as previously said they will simply close one account and open another. I wouldn't call it petty, I would like to think I'm protecting the quality of the hobby. I've been burnt by recasts before, they weren't bad (about 95% quality of ForgeWorld) but weren't that much cheaper than going to ForgeWorld direct at free postage. At that point I'd rather ForgeWorld have the cash and support the hobby directly, rather than funneling money into a re-caster. Also, just because the picture shows a ForgeWorld bag doesn't eliminate the chances of it being a recast. I've bid on a packaged item for it to come through in a basic sealed plastic bag from Ikea (off all places). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've bid on a packaged item for it to come through in a basic sealed plastic bag from Ikea (off all places). So the Swedish flat-pack furniture company are now recasters too? This truly is the Age of Darkness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've bid on a packaged item for it to come through in a basic sealed plastic bag from Ikea (off all places). So the Swedish flat-pack furniture company are now recasters too? This truly is the Age of Darkness. Makes you want to punch them right in the lingonberries, doesn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks for your opinions. I also feel that the quality and focus forgeword have been allowed on the Heresy is linked to it's success, and we don't want that to be jeopardised! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've bid on a packaged item for it to come through in a basic sealed plastic bag from Ikea (off all places). So the Swedish flat-pack furniture company are now recasters too? This truly is the Age of Darkness. Makes you want to punch them right in the lingonberries, doesn't it? Right in their Sweedish Meatballs and their Hotdogs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'd happily go around reporting them if I thought it would make a difference, nothing we can realistically do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 You should do what Abaddon did and smash any clones of Horus before they can cause any harm... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Someone will probably buy those, unknown to him/her that they are fakes. It's not good for the hobby... Or somebody who knows what to look for will buy it, because they can't afford Forgeworld Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Someone will probably buy those, unknown to him/her that they are fakes. It's not good for the hobby... Or somebody who knows what to look for will buy it, because they can't afford Forgeworld If you can't afford it, you're not justified in stealing someone's intellectual property! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I wouldn't shame the less privileged like that, but since you feel so strongly you should just report them No need for a thread about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'm heading this off right here before it erupts into a big fight, but here's the deal with recasts and this board: it's no longer the big, bad, secret sin and you can freely admit to using them, but you cannot direct people to where you purchased them. You don't have to like them, but they've been around for years and aren't going away anytime soon. Beyond that, be careful of how you phrase any such dislike of the recasts or those who use them, lest you stray into the territory of an attack on another member, which is against the rules of this board. http://i.imgur.com/u9yQtVs.gif Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305424-ive-seen-some-obvious-recasts-of-horus-on-ebay/#findComment-3994779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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