Jolemai Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yes he can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yeah... why would you think he couldn't be the Warlord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Oh right, he can be but he's stuck with BA traits. I suppose that's why it didn't occur to me. That, or quoting from a codex that I haven't memorized . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother apocalyptic Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Velcona, Librarian dread with speed of primarch,primaris and rage spell. Thats quite the combat monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Umm isn't Vel'cona a Librarian for the Salamanders and not interred in a dreadnought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Oh right, he can be but he's stuck with BA traits. The BA traits are great for the LIb dread since they boost his beat-stick abilities. (with a few exceptions) The Lib dread is awesome and daemon summoning is a great tool to have. Don't go for the khornate ones though, daemonettes (or plague bearers if you need 'touch of rust') are by far the best bang for your buck/warpcharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Heresy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You caught me. I tinkered with Salamanders back in 5th before the new BA codex landed. Guess I just really like the handle . . . And Vulkan. Because Melta. Also Flamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Oh right, he can be but he's stuck with BA traits. The BA traits are great for the LIb dread since they boost his beat-stick abilities. (with a few exceptions) The Lib dread is awesome and daemon summoning is a great tool to have. Don't go for the khornate ones though, daemonettes (or plague bearers if you need 'touch of rust') are by far the best bang for your buck/warpcharge. ...When you remember you have a squad of Plague Bearer's in the loft that haven't seen the light of day for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Has the question of how many attacks the libby dread gets with his Halberd been answered? A two-attack dread with quickening is still only averaging 4 attacks, very.....meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Has the question of how many attacks the libby dread gets with his Halberd been answered? A two-attack dread with quickening is still only averaging 4 attacks, very.....meh. The trick is though it has force, meaning only one has to get through to ID that nasty Monstrous creature ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He has force....IF he gets off his power. Relying on a level 1 psyker successfully casting both force and quickening is very sketchy, especially with denials. And if you're casting those two powers, you're likely not able to cast your other power. And force doesn't help against Imperial Knights or Land Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Has the question of how many attacks the libby dread gets with his Halberd been answered?Not that I know. GW has not yet issued a FAQ what constitutes "fighting with". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He has force....IF he gets off his power. Relying on a level 1 psyker successfully casting both force and quickening is very sketchy, especially with denials. And if you're casting those two powers, you're likely not able to cast your other power. And force doesn't help against Imperial Knights or Land Raiders. Never run him as a lvl 1, not worth it. He's wasted against knights and super heavies. Use him against things he'll gib, preferably targets that he can ID with only S10 as quickening is usually your top priority. Centurions, wraithknights, anything tyranid, nob bikers, thunder wolves etc..... all worthwhile targets. Remember that you have a good chance of getting passive bonus buffs like more attacks or master crafted from the warlord trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 How would he fare against a Daemon Prince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapelXIII Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Generally speaking I've fared pretty alright using dreadnoughts in general versus most monstrous creatures, usually because they have to smash to guarantee breaking it's armor. I've had moderate success using a Furioso Dreadnought, and would assume that the Librarian would do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Unless I'm missing something the Daemon Prince is down to 1 attack, if it wants to damage the dreadnought (S6 cannot damage AV 13) and the Librarian can use all its S10 attack to ID the prince, if it manages to cast Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapelXIII Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 They can take weapons to increase their strength, but usually they will still need to smash in order to try and ensure a penetrating hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I need more Dreadnoughts... Which is good, because I love Dreadnoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't think I'd ever make a libby dread my Warlord. Too little gain for too much risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 My feeling exactly. It's a cool concept, but that only makes an expensive model that's difficult to hide (and shouldn't be hidden) an even bigger target. Also, restricting to one traits tree makes me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Unless I'm missing something the Daemon Prince is down to 1 attack, if it wants to damage the dreadnought (S6 cannot damage AV 13) and the Librarian can use all its S10 attack to ID the prince, if it manages to cast Force. Daemon Princes are T5, so the Libby Dread's S10 already causes Instant Death without having to rely on Force. Edit: quoted the wrong post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bukimimaru Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I'm probably totally wrong, but I always assumed the Daemon Princes had Eternal Warrior? I don't play Daemons very often. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Not by default, but some versions can get it with help of a relic or warlord traits, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Daemon Princes are T5, so the Libby Dread's S10 already causes Instant Death without having to rely on Force.Well, Nurgly Daemon Princes are T6, but honestly I thought all of them were at least T6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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