Stoic Raptor Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Agreed. He's a Chapter Master, and he seems to be one of the few who do not use TDA. The exceptions are those who prefer mobility, like Khan or Dante - but honestly, with Artificer Armor and an Iron Halo or equivalent, who needs Terminator Armor? What's the benefit, compared to the drawbacks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Ulfgrim Alvsbane, on 08 Apr 2015 - 12:52 PM, said: Agreed. He's a Chapter Master, and he seems to be one of the few who do not use TDA. ? Um... Nope... Termie armor: Calgar Logan Drago Not termie armor: Azrael Dante Vulcan He'shen Khan Helbrecht Shrike only a captain.. Kantor So that is 7 5 in Powered/Articifer and 3 in termie armor. Please also note that Calgar is still on the website in Powered armor too. Only thing Azzy needs is EW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Vulkan isn't a chapter master either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Guys I was just joking about Azrael, dog sleds, and Reanimation Protocols... maybe not.(Still want Reanimation Protocols -srs) Honestly what I would do within reason: - Nephilim gets the business. Avenger is going to be AP3 a shoot more, more range, more power.... Hover mode too. - Character Upgrades of the 3 major dudes. (Eternal War, more than the hotdog man will get AP2 swords) - Interrogator Chaplains - Boost to rules. - Deathwing Knights. Existing rules, add 1 to strength with Rending as well. 2 Wounds a piece. - Plasma Speeder: Can fire either mode after Jink. AV11, 3 HP - Tacticals *NEW* Armour! The first had access to many things. This special armour protects intellectual property and allows suing of chapter house on a 2+ Also allows unique FnP access! Just a taste of Prot's new 'Rum n' Coke' fueled edition of Dark Angels for 7th edition!... You're welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Vulkan isn't a chapter master either. Wondered... I tend to stay out of that other codex to ameliorate my depression issues... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Still calling Tactical Squad and Dreadnought for a Multi Melta and Autocannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 So that is 7 5 in Powered/Articifer and 3 in termie armor. Please also note that Calgar is still on the website in Powered armor too. Again, those Chapter Masters that don't fight in TDA tend to do so in Artificer Armor. It makes sense why Khan or Dante don't use TDA. As for Calgar, he has the option for either. and again, what's the real difference between TDA and Artificer Armor with an Iron Halo? It comes down to whether you prefer Relentless and Deep Strike at the cost of Sweeping Advance and a better invulnerable save. Personally, I'd love to have the option for either, but I don't see any situations where I'd want to Deep Strike with Azrael, or when I'd otherwise want to delpoy him in TDA. If it truly made a unit harder to kill, then sure - but as the rules currently stand, it doesn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4001908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Kahn is third company captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Korsarro Khan is 3rd Company Captain. Jubal Khan, however, is Chapter Master (Khan being a title). He also fights in powered armor, for fairly obvious reasons. I can imagine there aren't many Terminators in the White Scars (and if I recall correctly, it used to be that they couldn't even use them at all in older editions of the SM Codex). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It seems that the DA upgrade sprue is SOLD OUT... I start to worry... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 We can't be worried. I am 100% certain the next codex will be more competitive... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 We can't be worried. I am 100% certain the next codex will be more competitive...Hope is the first step on the road of disappointment... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It seems that the DA upgrade sprue is SOLD OUT... I start to worry... UK or US? It's been gone here in the states for quite a while... The CoVets squad box is still available tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The only potential disappointment we might face would be to no longer have the option of taking Raven and Deathwing as troops... I expect the unit entries themselves to remain the same or get better... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 FOC alteration was a 5/6 Edition thing... We will lose this and if we won't get a decent counterpart the codex will be worse than the one we have now... Knowing GW and DA since 1994 i dont believe we will get a counterpart for losing RW and DW as troops... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The only potential disappointment we might face would be to no longer have the option of taking Raven and Deathwing as troops... I expect the unit entries themselves to remain the same or get better... Ah you're new to this area aren't you? ;) This is -the- discussion of 7th edition. Everytime wishlisting happens, this debate happens.... Now, at a moment's notice, I anticipate someone is going to come along and say... FOC alteration was a 5/6 Edition thing...We will lose this and if we won't get a decent counterpart the codex will be worse than the one we have now... Knowing GW and DA since 1994 i dont believe we will get a counterpart for losing RW and DW as troops... D'oh. Here we go!1!!!11! I'm just going to say (for the billionth time) I see no reason why including Hotdog stand, or B-man, or Az won't result in respective units becoming ObSec. Again, think of Pedro. All we're probably really looking for as we move into detachment/formation land is ObSec, and really, unless we see ObSec from these characters, there will be VERY little reason to ever use them unless they get AMAZING buffs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Here's the deal, we don't even know if there is going to be a DA Codex, so there no use to wait for the sky to fall and waste bytes saying Codex will be like this or lose that or gain something. It's too early. just chill, enjoy what you have, paint stuff, read HH books, do some games and before you know it you'll have a new book. Then we can start worrying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I agree Lucifer and you know I play a lot.... but it's hard not to get giddy at the prospect. The truth is, perhaps the most enticing thing about this rumour is the idea of getting a Codex when: 1. We are in the heat of 'formation' based codexes. (Totally missed that boat, like Chaos) 2. We would not be a 'first of an edition' or 'the end of an edition'. Both ends can really suck... 3. There's already a plethora of great models in the line which historically means -not- a new 'must have' unit to compensate for mediocre rules, but instead some strong writing on existing units (IE crons had only one new model). I think we can agree on those 3 things,... maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 "Hotdog stand" what or who is this exactly? Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 "Hotdog stand" what or who is this exactly? Cheers I Sorry... I reference Sammael on the bike as the "Hotdog" stand.... Where I live it looks a LOT like what our downtown street food vendors use to sell hotdogs out of. (Even has a giant ketchup dispenser under it). I've always hated the model. I'm on year 3(?) of trying to paint it.... I just really hate that model. Granted our Hotdog stands don't have 'skilled rider' but if you can stomach the meat, it will give you 'Eternal Warrior'... if you make it to the bathroom in time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I agree Lucifer and you know I play a lot.... but it's hard not to get giddy at the prospect. The truth is, perhaps the most enticing thing about this rumour is the idea of getting a Codex when: 1. We are in the heat of 'formation' based codexes. (Totally missed that boat, like Chaos) 2. We would not be a 'first of an edition' or 'the end of an edition'. Both ends can really suck... 3. There's already a plethora of great models in the line which historically means -not- a new 'must have' unit to compensate for mediocre rules, but instead some strong writing on existing units (IE crons had only one new model). I think we can agree on those 3 things,... maybe? But you forget that the schedule more than two weeks out is murky as heck... It very well could be: June: Dark Angels August: 40k Eighth October: C:SM "the stuff we forgot to give C:DA" "Part III" I tend to not get overly excited about it like Luci councils. What we have isnt bad, live in the moment and be happy. ... if you make it to the bathroom in time. Wouldnt that give you FnP from mark of Nurgle? Stream of corruption... something like that?... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4002956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFromSam Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Possibly a bit blasphemous, but I'm really happy with the codex. Only thing I would like to see is generic Chapter Master, and Honor guard with banner option. Oooo maybe SS option for Sgts for modeling purposes. So going into this I'm a little nervous about what is to come. I don't want to say they can't make it worse, but... I mean unless the really try to dismantle fluff, it couldn't be too bad... Right? There are plenty of small tweaks they could make across the dex, and more artwork might be included as well. I'm looking forward to whatever (small) model release we get. And In the middle of ETL as well! I like hearing about everyone's one worst fear. Mine would be loss of unique banners. SO. MANY. WASTED. HOURS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4003155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 While I would mourn the loss of the interesting rules banners bring, I really don't like the fluff side of bringing these sacred items to a war zone. They should be tucked up in the Rock until ceremonial reasons require them out, war is not a ceremony. I don't think any rumoured new dex will bring major changes to many individual units if any at all: ala Daemonkin. I think we will get detachments and formations that require us to buy and include the crappier units as tax for using the better ones or for getting the Decurion style benefits. I do hope to be surprised though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4003210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 We can't be worried. I am 100% certain the next codex will be more competitive... Well that was said for our sixth edition codex as well. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4003325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 For the sake of fluff, I would like to see two wound veteran sergeants. To show how many physicaly able and strong leaders are never indoctrinated into the deeper levels of knowledge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/3/#findComment-4003372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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