Syphid Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Well the rumoured release schedule was Skitarii, Eldar, then Dark Angels. Skitarii are out now and Eldar were just announced... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazarith Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I just saw that too, the Eldar announcement. Makes me pretty excited. As a new player that has just been playing a few months getting a new codex to learn this early would be awesome. I would like to see points adjustments, special Dreadnought, and DA specific psychic powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 grav-guns! on bikes! lowered price for flyers and why not an AA tank from the SM armoury? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 grav-guns! on bikes! lowered price for flyers and why not an AA tank from the SM armoury? Yes For grav guns!I dont believe in reduced price For flyers We wont get AA tanks... Sw and BA didnt get them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gravs on bikes? What happens to plasma talons then? Would you still even bother? I probably wouldn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFromSam Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 They can keep em. If we're dreaming, I want to see multi/combi melta for my DS termi's :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gravs on bikes? What happens to plasma talons then? Would you still even bother? I probably wouldn't. I would... What makes me play the BK is the Corvus hammer and the grenade launcher... So don't think the BK would lose their attractability, they clearly wouldn't Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 The ability to kill AV2 will still be at a premium whatever comes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gravs on bikes? What happens to plasma talons then? Would you still even bother? I probably wouldn't. I would... What makes me play the BK is the Corvus hammer and the grenade launcher... So don't think the BK would lose their attractability, they clearly wouldn't The difference is the vanilla marine can still switch to bolter mode against... nids / orks. I would rather have the talons personally as a better all around killer and twin linking for less issues with overheat is big for me as I often melt myself. I would be surprised if they did it to the BK. I think it could happen to a generic bike squad though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4007993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So for anyone not paying attention, Codex Eldar Leaked yesterday with pictures today for Release 25 April. (Pre-orders 18 apiril) Does this help or hurt the rumors for a DA codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well, I would say that it's on the right track. Releasing the Codex in May/June would make sense for a DA vs Tzeench campaign in the Summer. Probably followed by a Tzeench Daemonkin or something. I really wonder what they are going to do with the Dark Angels codex... I've put my force on hold for the moment waiting for the moment when we have more info ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 +++DON'T WAIT! KEEP PREPARING FOR ETL15.+++ There will likely be only minor changes to existing units from a modelling PoV, you might need to swap the odd special weapon arm if you like grav etc... If we get something totally new (unlikely) then just buy it and rejoice :D stobz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well, I would say that it's on the right track. Releasing the Codex in May/June would make sense for a DA vs Tzeench campaign in the Summer. Probably followed by a Tzeench Daemonkin or something. I really wonder what they are going to do with the Dark Angels codex... I've put my force on hold for the moment waiting for the moment when we have more info ! I imagine it will be a lot like what eldar players are about to get. A new box to replace an aging one alongside an HQ clampack. Rulebook with balance changes along with the formation style GW seems to be pushing. If the DA space marine box rumor is true, I'm kind of hoping they take the opportunity to put in a unique alternative to the grav gun inside (or both if GW's feeling generous). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 +++DON'T WAIT! KEEP PREPARING FOR ETL15.+++ There will likely be only minor changes to existing units from a modelling PoV, you might need to swap the odd special weapon arm if you like grav etc... If we get something totally new (unlikely) then just buy it and rejoice stobz I would agree with this however since I have like.. 90% done all I can do is speculate.... for instance, I'm thinking perhaps we get access to a Stormraven since it seems to be pretty common ground for all Astartes (even Grey Knights). I was thinking of getting the DV expansion for DA but then I thought wow, what if there's zero change to rules for that stuff, and I just have more of the same? I don't have the Dark Talon so there's that, but I do have a Nephilim, plenty of bikers. If anything I could expand on my Deathwing Knights, but I find I don't use them... I'm a little unsure. But the good news is I do have a ton of bikes that need doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorhammer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I like plasma but a relic cooling system for them would be nice Geedubbs, like re-rolls to 'gets hot' if not twin-linked otherwise we will stay as the 'crisp'n'dry' angels since the changes to 'gets hot' in 7th applies to vehicles too. Master crafted power swords would be 'fluffy' too, at least for symbolism. In regards to new units, I'd prefer not to just become 'vanilla marines', instead fix the roles of the new models from the last wave rather than leaving the majority of them (except the knights) in a place of obscurity the same with alot of the wargear and some relics seemed rushed and not thought through, I love synergy but a lot of the new DA stuff didn't make sense. Points reductions almost across the board would keep them in line with the 'streamlining' of 7th. The formations and detachments will be interesting, 7th is moving away from Obj Sec so perhaps we'll see several faction specific detachment choices for the wings? I don't know I can't see the unlocking troops choice thing staying, would love the option not to be forced to take a SC to run a wing army. I just eagerly await tbh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The changes may affect the purchases from some Frater Prot, but your current minis can be worked on without fear of major upset. +++ETL FTW!!!+++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Stobz is correct but I would like to point out a wrinkle.The new Eldar codex is priced at $58 USD, the same price as the oversized Space Marine book, hinting that it probibly has rules in it for most (all) craftworlds in it.Both Space Marines and Dark Angels have been rumored as next...Do I dare utter the "R" word? It would end most of the discussion on grav and Centurions tho. 100% speculation... all I have are dots and I drew lines... the actual picture may be entirely different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It's also possible that someone heard "there's going to be a new space marine Codex" and in their mind that went "There's going to be a new Space Marines Codex!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 That crossed my mind too. I am trying to not be a downer this time around. even tho it looks like I am. Sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 We could all be right or completely wrong, only time will tell (and I hope it's not too far out :D ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Cause people are dallying to sign up for ETL? Fine.. I will sign up tomorrow, I have a DWK squad to take from the wash stage on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I was thinking of getting the DV expansion for DA but then I thought wow, what if there's zero change to rules for that stuff, and I just have more of the same? I don't have the Dark Talon so there's that, but I do have a Nephilim, plenty of bikers. If anything I could expand on my Deathwing Knights, but I find I don't use them... I'm a little unsure.Use both planes as stormtalons, get a stormraven, use a stormwing formation. Bam, air support that's worth the points and with the new ally rules, a decent transport too. EDIT: And if we get the raven in our next codex then that just makes it better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 If the Nephelim is still rubbish, I'd be taking two Xiphon Interceptors. They'll have a point adjustment soon, but their rules are good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 we won't have the stormraven, stop dreaming guys. We are not a close combat army like blood angels or space wolves (and they didn't get the stormraven either). na we'll get a few adjustments in points, formations, maybe the grav-guns for tactical squads. the rules about the "gets hot" should exist fluffwise, but I doubt it. or only on a few specific units. @Rorhammer, why do you say "7th is moving away from Obj Sec"? I mean, the mealstrom of war, which are in tournaments are won by having the obj secured... 7th gives you the possibility to play unbound armies, loosing the obj sec rules. but that's it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainKael Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Raychu, you are mistaken. Blood Angels was the first Marine varient to get the Stormraven (followed by GK then SM). Space Wolves got the Stormwolf/Stormfang, which is a Stormraven equivalent (AV12 transport with good weapon options for AA or AT duties). We are the only marine chapter without a SR or an equivalent flier (barring Forge World). As I see it, they are going to do 1 of 3 things to remedy this, going from least to most likely: 1. Give us another unique Dark Angels flier (in what would be our second big box kit). 2. Do nothing, leaving us as the only marines without a flying transport. 3. Give us the Stormraven, as they did for SM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305582-early-june-rumors/page/5/#findComment-4008915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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