Jolemai Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 That reminds me, what powers for Mephiston? I guess he's going to roll with the Terminators and the Chaplain inside the Stormraven? Used Mephiston on the weekend. Rolled on Biomancy and got Life Leach and Haemorrhage. Lets just say he didn't have the greatest life expectancy... Been rolling BA powers and been really happy. I love the primaris. Everything else is just gravy. Rolled Rage the other day too - 10 attacks on the charge- with rerolls to hit from Chap....devastating. Haha; in my other game with Mephiston (my Apocalypse game) I cranked him up to nine STR 10 INT 9 attacks only for him to miss the lot against an Invisible Be'Lakor... Back on topic, as you're running a Mech list with a Mech command tank, outriders and air support, how do you think you'll do on the fluff score? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4014561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 The fluff score works on a a very strict rubric -so i wont get anything. RUBRIC: Each Level is cumulative in its requirements for more points. 1 The army is representative of the faction’s fighting style. It includes signature units that the faction is known for. Any allies are not only likely but highly probable. Troop choices make up the majority of the points in the army. 2-5 The faction and some of the units are documented as having taken part in a specific battle or the force and fighting style is well-documented. The weapons/ wargear/upgrades and units chosen are reflective of the battle noted. Units are led by characterful and personalised hero upgrades. A strong majority of Troops selections are maximised units. 6-10 The army’s command structure (HQ) is likely and probable, not being top heavy or over-invested, counting for no more than 10% of the army. The army’s command structure (HQ) does not conflict with existing fluff. Each unit is unique in its gear or role and aesthetic. Modelling of units is unique and each unit has squad markings represented, banners painted and appropriate heraldry. 11-15 The army is a near-perfect representation of a force(or part of a force) that took part in a well-documented battle. It makes extensive use of the fighting style of the faction in question with characters and heroes modelled and geared appropriately. The army is primarily or predominantly built around a majority core of Troops that account for 65% of the army. I have no DC, Baals, Furioso's or Sang Guard - or even VAS or ASM jumpers...so...no go :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4014572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Interesting. I might even get 11-15 with my Wolves. Glad to see that fluff is also taken into account. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4014605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Buddy of mine made an excellent point about the VSF - and said that units I would want to tactically protect in missions 2 and 5 are likely to be units chosen by the enemy anyway.....meaning I should just as well go for the bonuses offered. With that out of the way, It seems like a really good buff to have. Troops and vehicles with Troops in them still obj sec . ...so...i'm being swung to the VSF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4015649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Any more play tests before the weekend? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4015650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rat Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 As Ive been reading Morticon's list it is only fair to show him mine. Warboss Zhadsnark Da Rippa. Mad Dok Big Mek: bike,Da Lucky stik,KFF and Killsaw Painboy; bike BP and grot orderly. Troops. 15 bikes,nob,pk,bp 4 bikes,nob,bp,pk 4 bikes,nob,bp,pk. 30 boyz,shootas,nob,pk,bp 30 boys,sluggas,nob,pk,bp 30 gretchin,3 runtherds.squig hounds. 5 deffkoptas,3 buzzsaws,t/l rokkits 15 kommandos,nob,pk,bp, 2 burnas. Snikrot. 15 lootas. 2 meks,killsaws and 1 kombi skorcha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4015909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Any more play tests before the weekend? None :( TOo busy with work. As Ive been reading Morticon's list it is only fair to show him mine. Warboss Zhadsnark Da Rippa. Mad Dok Big Mek: bike,Da Lucky stik,KFF and Killsaw Painboy; bike BP and grot orderly. Troops. 15 bikes,nob,pk,bp 4 bikes,nob,bp,pk 4 bikes,nob,bp,pk. 30 boyz,shootas,nob,pk,bp 30 boys,sluggas,nob,pk,bp 30 gretchin,3 runtherds.squig hounds. 5 deffkoptas,3 buzzsaws,t/l rokkits 15 kommandos,nob,pk,bp, 2 burnas. Snikrot. 15 lootas. 2 meks,killsaws and 1 kombi skorcha 15 BIKES?! O_o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Any more play tests before the weekend? None TOo busy with work. As Ive been reading Morticon's list it is only fair to show him mine. Warboss Zhadsnark Da Rippa. Mad Dok Big Mek: bike,Da Lucky stik,KFF and Killsaw Painboy; bike BP and grot orderly. Troops. 15 bikes,nob,pk,bp 4 bikes,nob,bp,pk 4 bikes,nob,bp,pk. 30 boyz,shootas,nob,pk,bp 30 boys,sluggas,nob,pk,bp 30 gretchin,3 runtherds.squig hounds. 5 deffkoptas,3 buzzsaws,t/l rokkits 15 kommandos,nob,pk,bp, 2 burnas. Snikrot. 15 lootas. 2 meks,killsaws and 1 kombi skorcha 15 BIKES?! O_o Full unit ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 now that's a proper Ork for you - prepare the enemy so that you get a better scrap out of it :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltiXorz Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Its probably Fair to reveal my list as well.Since Im one of Moritcon's "heavy hitters" +++ New Roster (2499pts) +++ ++ Adepta Sororitas: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++ + No Force Org Slot + Ministorum Priest [Close Combat Weapon, Frag & Krak Grenades, Laspistol, Rosarius, The Litanies of Faith] + HQ + Uriah Jacobus, Protector of the Faith [bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Frag & Krak Grenades, Rosarius, The Banner of Sanctity, The Redeemer] + Elites + Repentia Squad [Act of Faith: Spirit of the Martyr] Mistress of Repentance [Frag & Krak Grenades, 2x Neural Whips] 9x Sister Repentia [9x Eviscerator] + Troops + Battle Sister Squad [Act of Faith: Light of the Emperor, 19x Battle Sisters, Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak Grenades] Sister Superior [bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Melta Bombs] Battle Sister Squad [Act of Faith: Light of the Emperor, 19x Battle Sisters, Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak Grenades] Sister Superior [bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Melta Bombs] + Fast Attack + Dominion Squad [Act of Faith: Holy Fusillade, Bolt Pistol, 4x Dominions, Frag & Krak Grenades, 4x Meltagun] Dominion Superior [boltgun, Combi-Melta] Immolator [searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer] Seraphim Squad [Act of Faith: The Emperor's Deliverance, Frag & Krak Grenades, Jump Pack, 10x Seraphim, 2x Two Hand Flamers] + Heavy Support + Exorcist [Exorcist Missile Launcher, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers] ++ Grey Knights: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++ + HQ + Librarian [Frag, Krak and Psyk-out grenades, Nemesis warding stave, Psychic Hood, Psyker [ML 3], Terminator Armour] + Troops + Terminator Squad [brotherhood of Psykers [ML 1], Terminator Armour] 6x Terminator (falchions) [12x Nemesis falchion, 6x Storm bolter] Terminator (hammer) [Nemesis Daemon hammer, Storm bolter] Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon] Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon] Terminator Justicar [Nemesis Daemon hammer, Storm bolter] + Fast Attack + Stormraven Gunship [Ceramite Plating, 4x Stormstrike missile, Twin-linked assault cannon, Twin-linked multi-melta] + Heavy Support + Nemesis Dreadknight [Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis greatsword and power fist, Personal teleporter, Psyker [ML 1]] ++ Fortifications and Stronghold Assault (2013) (Fortification Detachment) ++ + Fortification + "Imperial Strongpoint" Aegis Defense Line [Comms Relay] Imperial Bastion [Gun Emplacement with Quad-gun, 4x Heavy Bolters] Imperial Bastion [4x Heavy Bolters] Created with BattleScribe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Well. That sounds fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I see a lot of hassle about the army creation points. I mean, is losing 20-30pts on army creation such a big deal considering you can get more battle points if your army is more optimized? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rat Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Most years there has only been a 5pt difference between 1st and 2nd ,so the FOC,WYSIWYG and Painting make a huge difference. Its going to be hectic this year as we have some good players coming with the sole purpose of killing stuff with no intention of trying to win the overall competition so their lists are going to be terrifying. I always refer to this tournament as 'the thinking mans tournament' which is why Ive never won it . The first year of the tournament I did no planning,,just pitched up with 2500 pts. If I hadnt beaten a 10year old kid in the last round I would have come rock bottom which would have been hilarious for my peers as I had been doing well in the regionals and nationals. I was playing Chaos in those days,before I saw the light. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltiXorz Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 To state from experienceI showed up last year with the most hardcore list i could field.Won all my games by tabling except for 1. Where he had a single squad of troops leftCame 11thArmy comp and appearance is huge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4016903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Played Nigel's (DirtyRat) Orky list last night. Good lordy. It's far, far scarier on the table. Played mission 1. He got first turn, and I got quite lucky with the draws. Wound up with 17-15 to him. I'm now once again feeling more like the CAD over the VSF ><; So conflicted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4017768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 For what it's worth, the two strats I rolled were: Night fight, -1 to enemy reserves. I didnt really want either of them and found the lack of reroll to be a bit of a bain. I didnt make use of the mysterious objective roll either. There were also 2 occasions where lack of Obj Sec on my vehicles cost me points (or at least gained my enemy points). Pref Enemy was quite nice on the squad though. I'm thinking of changing the Axe to a Maul so i can help thin out the orkies. I'm unsure of that though. Also, now toying with the idea of a skyshield with ready for take off. Any thoughts/ideas on that? I'd lose one razorback to get it. Not sure if i'm just over-reacting - but i feel like i need the firepower on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4017865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Do you really want your Fireraptor to become a Skimmer on the first turn? Seems like a huge risk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4017873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 My thoughts were that id only put it on the board if I had first turn, and the enemy didnt have beserk amounts of firepower that i couldnt negate somewhat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4017900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think you need to grow a beard as much beard scratching is required. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4017902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I would not risk deploying the Fire Raptor. AV12 with 4++ is not hard to kill T1, especially at 2.5k. Since it is your only source of reliable AA, it would handicap you too much if you lose it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4017950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 so, having those last minute tweak change thoughts. I didnt like how my Tacs couldnt hold their own when it came down to it. I'm thinking of dropping 5 guys (this will take me down 3 points for comp though) and the grav gun, which will see me gain 85 points. I'm wanting to use the points to upgrade three sarges to vets with weapons, and then use the ten points for something else like MBs or even another TH termy? Thoughts here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4018758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't think you can afford to lose the comp score. Perhaps you could switch out a Razorback for a Rhino to mitigate it and that gives you an extra 40 points to play with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4019197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Yoh. What a tournament. Will fill you guys in soon. Recovering for now. Batreps and pics to follow in the next few days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4020966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Looking forward to it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4020985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Went with the CAD btw, and went with this: BLOOD ANGEL – COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT HQ MEPHISTON 175 CHAPLAIN- Veritas Vitae, Grav Pistol, Auspex 125 DAMOCLES RHINO 75 ELITE 5x TERMINATORS 4x Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield 220 TROOPS 10x TACTICAL SQUAD Lascannon, Melta Gun, Melta Bomb. 175 1x RAZORBACK – Lascannon/twin-plasma 85 10x TACTICAL SQUAD Lascannon, Melta Gun, Veteran Sarge, Power Sword, Grav Pistol 210 1x RAZORBACK – lascannon/twin-plasma 85 5x TACTICAL SQUAD Heavy Flamer, Power Maul, Veteran Sarge, Infernus Pistol 120 1x RAZORBACK – lascannon/twin-plasma 85 10x TACTICAL SQUAD Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Veteran Sarge, Power Axe, Infernus Pistol 200 1x DROP POD 35 HEAVY SICARAN Legacy of Glory – Schism of mars 160 STORM RAVEN Extra armour, TL-Multimelta, TL-assault cannon 205 FIRE RAPTOR Legacy of Glory – War of Murder 245 FAST ATTACK 5x ASSAULT MARINES 2x Meltaguns, 1x Infernus Pistol, 1x Grav Pistol 135 1x DROP POD 0 3x ATTACK BIKES 3X Multi-Meltas 165 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305839-road-to-veterans-2015/page/3/#findComment-4020988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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