GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 So this is the HHH; The point of this thread is to list and discuss house rules or tweaks from RoW, independent custom characters & Legions, personal tweaks like our dear friend IHF and his custom vehicles ruleset, or Athwares and his lightning bearers second legion project. or even adding special rules to pieces of unique terrain or tweaking weapon profiles for vehicles (example; +1Str and 6 inch torrent to all vehicle based flamer sponsons due to higher pressure intake jets or fuel stores) In doing so we can expand and enjoy our setting with our armies friends gaming groups and communities. If people like I'll continue to edit the first post with links to posts in other threads and websites and turn this into a reference thread for all sorts of ideas for our hobby. Kindest Regards, Taron James Beer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakuth Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I want to do a Destroyer/Siege Breaker ROW, where Destroyers can be taken as troops, but cannot count as scoring. .... Let me work on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Moritats- change them back to what they first where. Remove the gets hot nerf. And give them options for archeotech pistols (15 pts per gun) Make the moritat upgrade 55 pts though. Destroyers: make the grenade launcher, that if you kill one model, the whole enemy unit gets the -1 T, make them 25 pts cheaper base. And make the phosfex bombs 5 pts cheaper per bomb. Jetpack upgrade should be 25pts for the squad. Give all the models the gunslinger special rule. That would balance those units out.. alot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Sounds great I'm currently trying to work on a insertion (deep strike) and extraction Row for the IVth legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I've been itching to make a few rules for my Moritat's Cremator Guard, along with a Grave Warden character. I should sit down and do that some day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well this is the thread to pitch and share ideas; Characters Rights of war New units Rules Terrain special rules Etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I was doing a rebalance of the relics from Book 4, but ran out of time/interest. I had started the thread when the book had just come out and thought a few people were going to join in on the fun, but it ended up as just me tossing ideas out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 I was doing a rebalance of the relics from Book 4, but ran out of time/interest. I had started the thread when the book had just come out and thought a few people were going to join in on the fun, but it ended up as just me tossing ideas out. My friend I had not even seen that thread but I must say your reasoning is sound and I love it. This is the sort of thing that people should access if they wish to develop some house rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I will make a grave warden character in a moment.. and the cremator guard too.. :) sooo.. shall i post the rules here when im done with them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Go ahead and if you can write them out like the HH books (name sub name points war gear options rules Etc) I'll add it to the first post Edit: don't forget the stat line but please keep it within the confines of the book 4 campaign character progression table Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 No problem! I might (might :p ) have the rules by the end of this day! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Allow command squads access to legion specific weapons, also increase their maximum size to 10 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBOcaster Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The latest House rule we have to set up at my LGS is "Preferred enemy space marine" where space marine is replaced with Legion Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Are there any ideas on how we can format these rules rather than throwing them out. When I get back home (currently working about 750 km away from home) I'll separate them into categories but in the mean time can we submit them in the following format information. Name: Pts: Profile: unit composition: Wargear: Rules: Options: Rule details: unique Wargear profile: As set out in the HH campaign book entries just so I can sort through rules. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/6-VuxKvzyEtTc4InUPO2LE7Nfojhef5TwE4gbKV57NsYV5-WpA4tUEoLIqCBn_T6WnXNB72FtweG7S9MDE2sz9eoIjl-bOsFJf_lm4gBA8iF5UCFa-bnaNVQHT7_zpsfxqmdsbf.jpeg http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/ouLNefonXt6HxqmviFz17VqPaEXrO6Ha89TNaH7KkaN4HdYQ2Xpgd4nA3b_6dqratQRe2heyKeByJ89h_7jFcWaJQFU6J_0nbHFdCuPQBd8U_qtd7WXSGENfoth_zpsrrgs1opc.jpeg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 i want to do a "Mars pattern Skitarii" army list for HH battles (although i still hope we get rules for them with Tempest), it will basically the 40k Skitarii list with some tweeks, and without Ironstriders (as these were invented M.33 -,-), but with other cool stuff (Alpha Primus, Rapiers, Land Raiders, etc) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Something else that should be done for this "project" is for all related topics conducted here at the B&C to use the same tag. This will enable all members to find the related topics simply by clicking on the tag (all other topics that use the same tag will pop up as a search result). I recommend "30K House Rules" (without the quotation marks). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Something else that should be done for this "project" is for all related topics conducted here at the B&C to use the same tag. This will enable all members to find the related topics simply by clicking on the tag (all other topics that use the same tag will pop up as a search result). I recommend "30K House Rules" (without the quotation marks). yep - another question: which sub-forum? + age of darkness + or + horus heresy rules + :P? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 i want to do a "Mars pattern Skitarii" army list for HH battles (although i still hope we get rules for them with Tempest), it will basically the 40k Skitarii list with some tweeks, and without Ironstriders (as these were invented M.33 -,-), but with other cool stuff (Alpha Primus, Rapiers, Land Raiders, etc) So, who gets to put together the 30k rules for the Daemon Prince(ss) of Rumour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think that assault marines need to be dropped to 200 points for the basic 10 marines - 250 is way too much. I was consulting with Athrawes that maybe the game itself needs a house rule. We were thinking that both sides get to shoot during the first player's shooting phase (meaning the player going second can't fire during their first turn shooting phase). That way it doesn't become an alpha strike game where whoever gets first turn doesn't obliterate the other player and get First Blood almost automatically, it needs tweaking, but I feel bad if I have a fantastic shooting phase that my opponent can do nothing about. It's too bad this can't be an RTS game where both sides can fight at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Something else that should be done for this "project" is for all related topics conducted here at the B&C to use the same tag. This will enable all members to find the related topics simply by clicking on the tag (all other topics that use the same tag will pop up as a search result). I recommend "30K House Rules" (without the quotation marks). yep - another question: which sub-forum? + age of darkness + or + horus heresy rules + ? I think that the Homegrown Rules should also be considered. If the project is conducted in the Age of Darkness forums, I'll leave it to the forum mods to make a determination. Alternately, if they'd prefer the Homegrown Rules forum, that's also up to them. Simple cross-forum linkage could be implemented via the index that will appear at the top of this topic (as well as through the tags). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4003723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks brother Tyler for doing the tags, so all formal entries should be submitted as above. Now as for discussion on other rules I'm happy for ideas to be pitched and discussed via this thread. Atia- love the idea of running a temporary skitarrii list, ill look through the visions of heresy collection see if I can pick out any possible mech ideas for units like the Rho-47 Skitarri version utilizing a galling/rotor cannon type loadout. Depthcharge12- I do agree that a points reduction could be an option, or giving them out flank or scout to get them closer could be an option so that by the end of turn 1 you could be within charge range Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4004124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Destroyers: Give all the models the gunslinger special rule. Um, they do already. The gunslinger rule in the 40k rulebook allows any model with 2 pistols to fire them both. Unless you mean the rule Keades Nex (the special RG moritat) has that lets him use his pistols in melee? But then why wouldn't you give it to regular Moritats as well? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4004135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I would love for command squads to be able to have legion specific weaponry. I want my terminator command squad all with chainglaives damn it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4004139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 So it looks like the command squad needs an overhaul; To do this should we give them legion astrates (insert numeral) -any model who can switch to a power fist may exchange for a legion specific weapon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4004147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 So it looks like the command squad needs an overhaul; To do this should we give them legion astrates (insert numeral) -any model who can switch to a power fist may exchange for a legion specific weapon This could be fixed easier by making all of the command squad members characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305887-horus-heresy-house-rules/#findComment-4004207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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