ThatOneMarshal Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Hello brothers and sisters of the heresy. So my red books are coming in and I was thinking to move onto what I'm buying for the Horus heresy. I don't really know what to get. About the only thing that I have figured out is to buy the mk 4 strike force and maybe some night lords shoulder pads. Should I keep the tactical marines in the bundle as tactical marines or should I change them for a terror squad? I really don't know what to get. So far the terror assault sounds interesting but I don't know if that would be too similar to 40k for me and might be boring. I have set $400 for horus heresy models if someone could help me work with figuring what to spend with that amount to quote a certain boss That would be greaaaaat". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 get the strike force and make them into terror marines, and then get SEVATAR! seriously though terror marines are the way to go if you like the look of terror assault. Just do what you think would look cool and fun on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4005422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Terror assault + volkite = hilarious martian death ray fun! A packet or 2 of volkites, a pack of shoulder pads, a terror squad upgrade kit, Sevatar, your box of strike forcey lovliness, something in a dreadnought chassis, a squad of termies of your choice, plus upgrades of your choice, and there may be something left to get a bag o skulls from wherever Augustus B'Raass gets them from, and some fine chain, for dangly skulls on chains! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4005475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Alright sounds good. Is the terror assault fun? I mean does it get dull and boring fast? Also I was thinking a contemptor with dual kheres for anti tank. Or a melta. The idea is to use sevater to infiltrate the contemptors up the field and he himself either infiltrates with the Terror squad or comes in a pod. Then use sevaters ability to deepstriked some termie squads near him. A question is it worth it to go and get the free shipping? It's an awful lot to spend. So far here's my buying list: Mk 4 strike force 2 night lords shoulder pads 2 Terror squad helmets 1 volklite gun That's about 209 pounds. What else is good? Is there something that all marines should have? Maybe a contemptor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4005994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Regular mortis dreads are pretty cool, but for a points crunch is recommend the new Deredeo dreadnought. It can kill any AV13 on the field or in the air and it's missile launchers have almost a 100% chance of killing three marines a turn if they don't have an apothecary. Plus a NL Deredeo would look boss as hell :D Other than that, I'd recommend terminators, they do soo much better in the 30k meta. They also synergize well will Sevatar's atramentar rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 If you are light on anti tank then give the terror squad marines some melta bombs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Make sure you check which Volkite 'gun' you are buying... Charger, Caliver or Culverin. I'd recommend getting the HQ you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 For volkite the chargers are the right one, right? I don't have my book hopefully it'll arrive tomorrow. For hq I'll most likely get sevater and convert the captain to a delagus. I'll include some catapratchtii to the order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Plus a NL Deredeo would look boss as hell :D . Funny you should say that i'm sure i've seen one lurking somewhere Chargers live in the terminator section of FWs heresy bits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Chargers are the correct gun for the Terror Squads :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 For hq I'll most likely get sevater and convert the captain to a delagus. I'll include some catapratchtii to the order. You don't need a Delegatus if you have Sevatar. Sev already has Master of the Legion, so you can model the captain to represent another officer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Alright sounds good. Is the terror assault fun? I mean does it get dull and boring fast? Also I was thinking a contemptor with dual kheres for anti tank. Or a melta. The idea is to use sevater to infiltrate the contemptors up the field and he himself either infiltrates with the Terror squad or comes in a pod. Then use sevaters ability to deepstriked some termie squads near him. A question is it worth it to go and get the free shipping? It's an awful lot to spend. So far here's my buying list: Mk 4 strike force 2 night lords shoulder pads 2 Terror squad helmets 1 volklite gun That's about 209 pounds. What else is good? Is there something that all marines should have? Maybe a contemptor? With shipping and handling (at 15% based on your location of not UK) you are looking at a cost of £240.35, so for an extra £9.65, you are technically getting £41 of models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4006615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Got my book which makes things a lot easier for figuring out what to get.Alright cool thanks everyone. It seems unfortunately that the cattapratii is out of stock and tartaros looks too ugly for me. How long does it take forgeworld to restock something? I really don't know what to get anymore I just need one more item. I added sevater and apothecaries because I just found out that they can be attached to terror squads. I don't know what to get. Do I need the terror squad helmets to make terror squads look like they are? Should I go with the 30 man legion bundle instead since I'm getting sevater? The only unit I can think of is night raptors maybe? Otherwise I might just wait for the cata squad to come back. Any other units that are generally useful? At the minute for what I have right now I feel like I'm not getting all that many models. It feels like it's whole lot going just into 2 terror squads. I sure hope that they are good. Edit: at the minute I have: Legion mk 4 strike force 2 shoulder pads 2 terror squad helmets 2 volklite chargers Sevater Apothecaries. 245 pounds. I need one more thing. I was thinking to take out the shoulder pads but it seems there are no transfers for night lords. Maybe I should just get one charger set? Maybe just one terror squad helmet pack? I have no clue. I was thinking an contemptor or deredo. It seems like this list is pretty good on anti infantry so maybe some anti monstrous creatures? Are contemptors suited for that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4008600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 A contemptor would definitely be useful to give your force some punch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4008937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Eddy for AT/AA/anti-marine duties. Search Osore in the Wip section and that should help you make a decision ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4008956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 @Helterskelter I saw the deredo on your wip plog. I absolutely love it. I got rid of 1 terror squad helmets I figured that I can just split them up. So all I need is just one more model/squad for that sweet sweet free shipping. I've figured out three that I'm thinking to get: 1: wait a week and get a catapratchtii terminator squad 2: a night raptor squad 3: get rid of the apothecaries and grab myself a contemptor or deredo. Also should I switch out the strike force for the tactical squad bundle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4009883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd drop the Apothecaries for a Deredeo/Contemptor. They bring more to your force than apothecaries at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4009892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd drop it all and buy a warlord :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4009917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deekin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd drop it all and buy a warlord Was gonna say, wait till tempest drops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4009978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd drop the Apothecaries for a Deredeo/Contemptor. They bring more to your force than apothecaries at the moment.Cool now to figure out which one I want. The deredo will need converting because it looks not all that great looking at the minute. The contemptor will give me some cc boost though I have no idea what to equip him with. The deredo is a nice fire support unit. @ kurama for the same price that they'll sell the imperator for I can myself a decently used car. And it's probalby the same size as an imperator as well lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4010785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd stay away from getting the shoulder pads as its just one more thing to order when you want to expand on your collection; the helmets are fine as you can mix them through your units and some guys can have normal mkiv helmets, but the pads really stand out. If you're getting a contemptor get 2 assault cannons to make a mortis as theyre cheaper than a cc one and 12 bs 5 asssault cannon shots a turn is brutal, plus it can double as AA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4010796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Give the contemptor a power fist with graviton cannon and a kheres assault cannon. should give decent anti armour with the haywire blast and the rending, while also giving infantry harassment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4010804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Still way too expensive compared to a mortis with double kheres. 25 more points and you get CC while losing all AA (and intercept) and half your shots Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4010830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Still way too expensive compared to a mortis with double kheres. 25 more points and you get CC while losing all AA (and intercept) and half your shots A mortis with Double Kheres is pretty sub-par option if you consider the Deredeo mostly because the Deredeo has double its range. For roughly the same cost, A deredeo gets you 4 48" S8 Sunder Skyfire/Interceptor Shots + 3 60" S6 Ap3 Pinning Missiles which always hit side armor and don't need LoS to be shot at targets which also gains Skyfire/Interceptor if the Deredeo doesn't moove. Also, both weapons can be shot at different targets. Its not 12 S6 Rending shots but its more guaranteed damage against vehicles and a longer uptime on shooting output due to range. If you want an all-round decent Contemptor Threat, you get 1 Kheres and a Chainfist with Grav, imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4010896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 If you NEED anti air, get the Dere, if you want an all rounder Slips has my vote. Remember, if you are restricting your current order and have plans for a future order, then remember you can always magnetise the Contemptors arms for future adjustments, but you can't increase the Kheres range and add the buffs a dere gets if you need the anti air first. If you don't mind using the latest plastic tacticals and sourcing the MkIV pieces (legs, chest), you can use your left over spare heads (after using the head upgrade set) to create a few more - since the plastic MkIV heads aren't so nice on the eye whilst the body pieces could more easily blend in. In addition, think about what you want to do with your shoulder pads given your budget. To make up the entire force with legion specific pads is pricey (ie by the time you bought a few packs you could get another unit). I have a few for my legion to mix in, but they will be on a limited scale, it's also allowed me to use the left over pads to help create a few more tacticals. But of note is that a lot of people leave off the left shoulder pad even after painting the entire mini, waiting for the legion specific pad - so that in the future you can always give everyone a legion specific pad or just bite the bullet and put on normal ones. If you're unsure, source one set of heads and one set of shoulders, giving you ten uniform marines all 'badged' up. I decided the price wasn't worth it, but as much as I like uniformity, I'm going to end up with a few mixed armour marks and a few with legion specific pieces just so I have a bit of everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305967-figuring-out-what-to-buy/#findComment-4010942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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