ThatOneMarshal Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hey guys so a bit off backstory: So as you all know ETL is going to start ( which the Horus heresy will win). I have also recently started my Horus heresy night lords and having been looking for a good paint scheme for them. This led me to Augustes b'ras(night lord extraordinaire) and found his wonderful paint scheme. It seems that for the paint scheme to work I needed an airbrush. After that I looked around the various threads and found that all the great painters around the B&C used airbrushes to get the fantastic look on their models. So I must ask is an airbrush worth it? And does anyone know of any good and cheap airbrushes? Thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongou Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 http://www.tcpglobal.com/ECO-KIT-17-CRE.html ts is 94 bucks, what price range are you at may I ask? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4007393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solrac Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Last year getting back into the hobby I bought myself an air brush kit from eBay for $120. Came with a Compressor w/ a Tank, hoses and a cheap air brush with 2 different size needles and nozzles. At the time I had never used one and just wanted to learn but didn't want to splash out a whole heap of money straight away. I learned pretty well with the cheapo special. Mainly undercoating and easy shading techniques to start. I did find that being a cheap airbrush I pretty much needed to clean it completely (pulling it apart and cleaning it with a nozzle brush) after every use otherwise it would get clogged etc. Also noticed the quality of the nozzles weren't very good. I man handled them too much and broke the threads and were a pain to get out. Around Christmas last year I bought myself an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS, highly recommended by a friend of mine who is an air brush fanatic. Cost me $110 brand new on eBay. Compared to the one I started with it was a dream. I could get a lot finer with the detail and better with the shading. The paint always came out smoother and the Iwata was a lot more comfortable. Also I only clean it completely once a week and still works perfectly. Normally just running Airbrush cleaner through it works just fine. Once you have bought a brush its a case of finding a paint you like, there are heaps of recommendations around here but I like to use Vallejo Model Air. I clean the air brush with the Vallejo cleaner and still thin the paint a little with the Vallejo thinner. I also recommend you get yourself a cleaning pot. I found the concept of buying a bit daunting at first but the sooner you start using one the better. I still use my old cheapo air brush to do base coats. Good Luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4007441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gone through this a few times in similar threads. This one has the most info from myself and others, though: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277387-a-plethora-of-n00b-airbrush-questions/?hl=%2Biwata&do=findComment&comment=3402896 As for whether an airbrush is 'worth it,' I would say yes. You gotta learn a few new tricks, but really, you should always be trying to learn new tricks anyway :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4007462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yeah, it is worth it, although if you are trying to airbrush a single guy at a time, you'll probably spend a lot of extra time changing paints and cleaning the brush. But for bulk painting (even 5 guys at a time) and vehicles, it's great. Since you're in the US, you might check out Chicago Airbrush Supply. They've got some decent starter kits of, say, a Paasche brush and compressor with a few extra needles and tips, and they often run sales (bet they'll have one for Memorial Day). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4007895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Thank you everyone for the help! So I looked at the thread that firepower showed. It seems like an airbrush is a good but then. Would you guys recommend an iwata or a badger? I'm looking at my local hobby lobby would you guys recommend the Neo CN Gravity-Feed Dual Action Airbrush? It's cheap but I heard iwata has a pretty good reputation. If not that one would you recommend the revolution series or ellipse series? Also could use a regular air compressor? I've heard that you are going to need an moisture trapper and a regulator? Probably the cheapest option and means that I can spend more on the brush. Basically my main question is can I get a good airbrush for $100? I'm not asking end all be all able airbrush with cup holders and women clad in bikinis want me. Just a simple, nice, easy to use airbrush that will serve me good and have good quality. Also checked out Chicago airbrush supply if I don't get the brush at hobby lobby or micheals I'll get it there. Thank you all for helping me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4009903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I still recommend the Iwata Neo. A nice $50 workhorse that can do plenty, broad or detailed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4009938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Truckin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If you are like me and can't justify spending a few hundred just on an airbrush air compressor - you can use a regular air compressor from Lowes / Home Depot as well. I got a Bostitch air compressor with 6 gallon tank for $200. It also came with a Nail Gun, Brad Nailer and Staple Gun. It helps to barter these deals with the wife as now I can fix the screens on our porch faster etc.. Badger's air hose fits perfectly with no adapter. Moisture traps are pretty cheap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4010134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 There are some things you want the compressor to have which may not come with the more 'basic' models, specifically a moisture trap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4010709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykidemus Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 My first ab was one of those Master ones, and it made me want to tear out my hair for years - I was to the point of giving up on airbrushing all together, but I decided to give it one last shot and picked up a Badger Patriot, and it's like night and day. The Badger is an absolute joy to use.Everyone always talks about getting a compressor off the bat - and it's certainly your best long-term value, but I've been reading more about using a CO2 tank, and it really seems like a much more hassle-free experience. No noise, no moisture, no heating up when you run it for a long time. The tradeoff of having to take it in to fill it up for 15 bucks every year has been looking really good to me lately, and the tank itself runs about the same price as a cheap compressor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4012950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 My first ab was one of those Master ones, and it made me want to tear out my hair for years - I was to the point of giving up on airbrushing all together. My first was a Master, too. It was a piece of crap as well, but on the bright side I learned how to break down and clean an airbrush good and fast. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4013131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuel Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I have an Iwata HP-CS with Sparmax compressor, they are both brilliant. Without doubt I wouldn't buy anything other than Iwata, Badger or Harder & Steenback when it comes to the brushes. Honestly the cheap ones are not worth it, they will frustrate you and probably put you off airbrushing. Spend your money here if you're limited on budget. You can be a little more forgiving on the compressor front depending on what you want, I chose Sparmax because it is designed specifically for modelling and comes with all the "necessaries" however you can easily get away standard "workshop" compressors, but do ensure you get a moisture trap and if you need to keep it quiet in your house you'll need an air tank which means the compressor wont need to run all the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4013165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hey guys I forgot to post in this thread a couple of weeks ago. I finally got my airbrush and air compressor! Though there's about a thousand other bits I need to grab. I got the iwata neo. Thank you all for helping me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306090-help-with-airbrushes/#findComment-4084551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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