lykaonthropic Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So I ran into a conundrum and was wanting the community's opinion. I want to run a psyker with my Dev. Squads for prescience and I found that for the same amount of points I can either run Ultramrines tactics with Tigurius for 165 points OR I can run Sentinel's of Terra tactics with a vanilla Libby and use Inquisitor Cotaez in an allied detachment. My list is a drop podding list with stormtalon and TFC and Dev Squad support. Obviously with my list I would like to run the Sentinel's tactics since I think it synergies well with my list, but also Tiggy is very good as well. So what is your opinions on which would be more viable or should I just try both and see how it works out. I use a custom chapter so I am open there just FYI. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurganFr Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Tigurius in a custom chapter? What heresy is this? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 The question is, do you value one unit with prescience per turn at 165 points or whatever Coteaz costs so much that you're ready to bend your fluff for that combo ? ;) I can understand that Prescience is an interesting power to have, especially on high quality shots like Devastators. But, to put things into perspective, 165 points will get you two Landspeeder Typhoons and a Deathwing Launcher on one of your pods, or another Stormtalon. Obviously, your Devastators will miss a bit more than previously, but you had so much more dakka that it's worth it because in absolute you'll have more firepower per turn. Just food for thought ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaonthropic Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Good points. I would like to point out that in this specific list I was referring to that both my heavy and fast attack slots are full so I can't purchase anymore of those slots and I have 4 troop choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaonthropic Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Another thing to consider is that with a CAD I have to have a HQ unit. Therefore you automatically have to allocate anywhere from 90-130 base for an HQ so its not points I can just cut to add something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Okay, I thought you had an HQ already ;) I didn't mean to say that Divination was bad by any means :) But I felt that for 165 points it was a bit too expensive for my liking. Tigurius is a great character and you could use him as a mean Biomancy/Telepathy/Pyromancy shooty/buffy type of HQ thanks to ML3 and rerolls failed Psychic Tests ;) How much is Coteaz ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Let me give you something else to mull around. Prescience is a nice thing to have but the higher your BS, the less it does for you. Those Space Marines are already hitting things 67% of the time. Prescience will let them re-roll the misses so it adds 67% of 33%. In short, they will be 22% more effective. How many points are you spending on your Devastators? How many points are you spending to give them Prescience? If your Devistators are not AT LEAST 4 to 5 times the cost of your witch payker then you are losing potential and may want to consider finding other ways of adding in a few big guns. Either that or find a cheaper heritic. In other words, using special characters just to get Prescience for BS4 marines is a colossal waste of points. Consider using those points on another Devistator squad or allying with a bog standard Inquisitor sans upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaonthropic Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hmmmm. So basiacally I am paying 165 points to increase my hit chance with 4 lascannons by 10%. Mathematically that does sound dumb. Now that being said there still is a lot I can do with Tiggy, but which is better? Tiggy or Sentinels of Terra chapter tactics? something to think on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markham82 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Remember that there's more to Tiggy than just his psychic powers. IIRC he'll be able to do deny the witch for anyone within 12" on a 4+ most of the time. Then and this is big for your army especially since you'll have at least three units in reserve at the beginning of turn 2, is that you can reroll reserves because of him. But if you are using him just for one or so powers then don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 What are your Devastators equipped with ? If it's Lascannons, they already get strong benefits from the SOT CT if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Tigurius in a custom chapter? What heresy is this? Don't worry, you can just paint a mustache on him to show that he is Tigurius' long lost evil twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excubitor Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 If you're able to use Forgeworld, Mantis Warriors CT gives librarians access to Divination as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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