Need a name for Salamanders successor chapter.

[Wargasm40k]

So I'm making a Salamanders successor chapter and I'm looking for a name.  The chapter's "feel" is going to be a combination of the Salamanders and Space Wolves.  Savage warriors that prefer close combat assaults with a heavy use in flamer and melta weapons.  

 

I was going to go with the Fire Dragons as a name originally but there is an Eldar unit named that.  My second choice is the Fire Drakes, which ties into the chapter origin as a way to honor the first captains of the chapter who were chosen from among the ranks of the Firedrakes in the Salamanders chapter.

 

Gimmie your opinions on the use of Fire Drakes as a name, I'd also welcome any suggestions. 

[Hrvat]

Fire Drakes is as good name as any but if you are looking for something more "exotic" how about something along the lines of Magma Monitors or Volcanic Varans.

[Nomus Sardauk]

Fire Drakes is as good name as any but if you are looking for something more "exotic" how about something along the lines of Magma Monitors or Volcanic Varans.

But isn't that the name of the Salamanders 1st Company? :/

[Machine God]

Fire Wyrms.

 

Ash Drakes.

[Hrvat]

 

Fire Drakes is as good name as any but if you are looking for something more "exotic" how about something along the lines of Magma Monitors or Volcanic Varans.

But isn't that the name of the Salamanders 1st Company? :/

 

 

It is but I don't see that as an obsticle, after all just because the 1st company of BA is called Archangels it shouldn't mean there couldn't been a chapter named the same in the galaxy.

[Carlson793]

So I'm making a Salamanders successor chapter and I'm looking for a name.  The chapter's "feel" is going to be a combination of the Salamanders and Space Wolves.  Savage warriors that prefer close combat assaults with a heavy use in flamer and melta weapons.  

 

I was going to go with the Fire Dragons as a name originally but there is an Eldar unit named that.  My second choice is the Fire Drakes, which ties into the chapter origin as a way to honor the first captains of the chapter who were chosen from among the ranks of the Firedrakes in the Salamanders chapter.

 

Gimmie your opinions on the use of Fire Drakes as a name, I'd also welcome any suggestions. 

 

Read that first paragraph and all I can think is "that's the Black Dragons". 

 

Firedrakes (or variants thereof) might cut too close to the Salamanders - would imply the Salamanders 1st Co. split off at some point.

 

What's catching me is mixing Salamanders (dragons) and Space Wolves (Germano-Norse). Maybe something a dragon from Norse mythology. Nidhogg seems to have a good feel. One bit that might lend to the back story: the root word of the dragons name implies loss of honor and villainous status.

[Trevak Dal]

What about the Carnosaurs?

[Carlson793]

Thanks for sparking my memory, TD. Perhaps name it for one of Nocturne's saurian fauna.

[Gorkimedes]

You need to embrace the rediculous that is the space wolves name!

 

Nebulasaurs

 

Star Drykes

 

Carnivoids

[Conn Eremon]

Fire Drakes is claimed by no one, not even the Salamanders' 1st Company, though the point was welll-made that people will inevitably compare and connect the two, and likely assume they are directly related.

 

Space Drakes has a nice flow to it, and fits the Space Wolves naming style.

 

But what I would most recommend is that you explore their themes first. You have a couple good ones already, but you should explore their character and history a bit, and by that I mean your thoughts and plans on them. Maybe pick a culture, historical cicilization, or fictional work that will form a basis for the Chapter.

 

You might find a more suitable name from that kind of exploration.

[Wargasm40k]

 

 

Fire Drakes is as good name as any but if you are looking for something more "exotic" how about something along the lines of Magma Monitors or Volcanic Varans.

But isn't that the name of the Salamanders 1st Company? :/

 

 

It is but I don't see that as an obsticle, after all just because the 1st company of BA is called Archangels it shouldn't mean there couldn't been a chapter named the same in the galaxy.

 

Also as part of the Chapter origin, ten of the most assault oriented Salamanders were chosen from among the 1st company, the Firedrakes to train and command the new chapter in it's fledgling years until enough officers rose through the ranks to take command themselves.  They took the name Fire Drakes as the chapter name in order to honor the 1st company Salamanders. 

 

So far that's the best sounding name I've come up with and it fits with their origin.

[Wargasm40k]

Fire Drakes is claimed by no one, not even the Salamanders' 1st Company, though the point was welll-made that people will inevitably compare and connect the two, and likely assume they are directly related.

 

Space Drakes has a nice flow to it, and fits the Space Wolves naming style.

 

But what I would most recommend is that you explore their themes first. You have a couple good ones already, but you should explore their character and history a bit, and by that I mean your thoughts and plans on them. Maybe pick a culture, historical cicilization, or fictional work that will form a basis for the Chapter.

 

You might find a more suitable name from that kind of exploration.

Space Drakes does flow well, but it doesn't really comunicate their love of fire.  Their homeworld is volcanic, they use lots of fire and melta based weaponry, and their hatred for aliens, especially orks, is so great that they will burn or melt down alien corpses and equipment and somtimes go so far as to use fire to cleanse the very ground itself that any alien has tread upon.  Fire and close combat are their speciality so the name has to contain an element of that.

 

Pyre Drakes was a choice at first but it sounded a bit to morbid, as pyres have a lot to do with funerals.

 

Fire Drakes so far is my favorite choice since it is in honor of their origin which I have explained in another post. 

 

Fire Serpents sounds good, but serpents have the reputation of being deceitful and this chapter are anything but.

 

Inferno Drakes/Dragons is a possibility. 

[Lysimachus]

Remember that if there is a particular part of the Sallies character you want to reference, you can focus in on that over the others.

 

i.e. You seems to be using their gene seed primarily for the love of fire, rather than dragons, technical skill or protectors of humanity - all of which are other aspects of who the Sallies are. So maybe focus on that in the name?

 

Flame/Fire/Ash/Inferno have all been mentioned, perhaps tie one of those with something more simple; Guard, Knights, Warriors, Titans, Giants. Actually, one of these last two may work better to create a more savage, CC-oriented and even tribal/nordic theme - personally I might go with something quite simple like Fire Giants, which would not only highlight their direct, warrior character but would also fit nicely with one of the Sallies (believed) Successors, the Storm Giants.

 

Trying to stick both fire and dragons in the name limits your options and makes it feel more... generic I guess? I suppose there very well could be a Successor named for the 1st Co, it just comes across as a bit obvious.

 

 

Of course, that's no reason not to use it if you're happy with it. There might be thousands of people out in the interwebs with their own Firedrakes Chapters, but you'll probably never meet any of them so really, who cares?

[Wargasm40k]

Remember that if there is a particular part of the Sallies character you want to reference, you can focus in on that over the others.

 

i.e. You seems to be using their gene seed primarily for the love of fire, rather than dragons, technical skill or protectors of humanity - all of which are other aspects of who the Sallies are. So maybe focus on that in the name?

 

Flame/Fire/Ash/Inferno have all been mentioned, perhaps tie one of those with something more simple; Guard, Knights, Warriors, Titans, Giants. Actually, one of these last two may work better to create a more savage, CC-oriented and even tribal/nordic theme - personally I might go with something quite simple like Fire Giants, which would not only highlight their direct, warrior character but would also fit nicely with one of the Sallies (believed) Successors, the Storm Giants.

 

Trying to stick both fire and dragons in the name limits your options and makes it feel more... generic I guess? I suppose there very well could be a Successor named for the 1st Co, it just comes across as a bit obvious.

 

 

Of course, that's no reason not to use it if you're happy with it. There might bne seede thousands of people out in the interwebs with their own Firedrakes Chapters, but you'll probably never meet any of them so really, who cares?

Oh I didn't mean to imply that I am using Salamander gene seed just for the love of fire.  They have technical skills as well as having a passion for protecting humanity from the horrors of the galaxy.  What I'm trying to do with the chapter is take the best qualities of the Salamanders and combine that with the tribal nature of the Space Wolves.  The end result being a chapter of Space Marines who's warriors skilled enough to maintain and in some cases make their own personal equipment and weapons but have enough savagery to tear into their enemies with all the fury of a dragon and purge them with sword and fire and still have enough compassion for humans to defend those who cannot defend themselves. 

[Wargasm40k]

Thanks for all the input everyone, I'm going to start working on the write up for my chapter.  I'll keep some of these suggestions in mind but for now I think I will stick with the Fire Drakes idea.

[Olis]

And there I was about to drop in a name suggestion. :rolleyes:

 

Nevermind, I'll keep the suggestion to myself (I quite like it). If you wish to pursue the idea of a Fire Drakes chapter, then I'll ask this: What elements are you going to use to distinguish this Chapter from it's parent? Aside from the whole wolfy-tribal malarky, of course. Or, more to the point, how will you implement the tribal motif?

[Wargasm40k]

And there I was about to drop in a name suggestion.

Nevermind, I'll keep the suggestion to myself (I quite like it). If you wish to pursue the idea of a Fire Drakes chapter, then I'll ask this: What elements are you going to use to distinguish this Chapter from it's parent? Aside from the whole wolfy-tribal malarky, of course. Or, more to the point, how will you implement the tribal motif?

Well my intent wasn't to make it different from the Salamanders so much as to keep it similar enough to the Salamanders to make it different from the Space Wolves. In the beginning I wanted a Space Wolves successor but that pesky thing about having unstable geneseed put a damper on that, next best option was to make a chapter like the Space Wolves but not be Space Wolves. But I didn't want it to become a generic Space Wolves knock off. I considered making the new chapter a Blood Angels successor but I'd be trading in space viking werewolves for space viking vampires. That's when I settled on them being a Salamanders successor.

So the end result will be space viking pyromaniacs that have a reverence for dragons and have a more simplistic, tribal version of the Promethean Cult.