Wildfire Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So, I'm not seeing any DC rules about being uncontrolled, or not allowing non-chappy ICs to join them. Am I just missing them? Are DC really that easy to use now? What's to stop a White Scars HQ to join them and keep the FC and Rage goodness going constantly? Also, is it my imagination or does that mean that the Command Squad just sucky compared to DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It's not a trick; DC really are that easy to use these days and yes, you can place any IC you want there and that includes those allies who are Battle Brothers. FC is a Blood Angels rule, Rage is a DC rule and these will remain. In short, the BRB will tell you which rules remain passive, get shared, and so on. The Command Squad has an entirely different use altogether and is far from "sucky". It will, however, pale in comparison to the DC if used in the same manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Command squad as a power weapon unit, use something else. Command squads as a shooting unit, with stormshield access and FNP works well. I haven't tried it yet, but as a storm shield bodyguard for someone like Mephiston would probably work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Command squad as a power weapon unit, use something else. Command squads as a shooting unit, with stormshield access and FNP works well. I haven't tried it yet, but as a storm shield bodyguard for someone like Mephiston would probably work well. I have been playing around ways to best support Mephiston (hasn't everyone?) and am leaning towards Vanguard Vets on foot for the Storm Shields. Why would you put him in command squad rather than a VV squad? Command Sq gives you FNP but you lose out on 2 more shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Command squad gives you apothecary and WS 5 champion with power sword for just five points more than Vanguards. Command squad is more versatile than vets, can take ranged weapons, and, IMO, FNP is more useful than a couple of storm shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alluminas Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I use 3xss and 3xmelta with my command squad escorting Meph. I have never yet failed to make back my points with interest. have yet to try vv with him. Will get to it eventually, I'm sure, but the command squad is just so nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I use 3xss and 3xmelta with my command squad escorting Meph. I have never yet failed to make back my points with interest. have yet to try vv with him. Will get to it eventually, I'm sure, but the command squad is just so nasty. -Mephiston -Brother Corbulo (wha????!? Don't see that often!) -Vanguard Veteran x5 --Sgt. w/ Relic blade and Storm Shield --1x VV w/ 2x LC --1x VV w/ Plasma pistol and Chainsword --1x VV w/ Plasma pistol and Storm Shield --1x VV w/ Storm Shield and Chainsword --5x Melta Bombs -Rhino (Drop Pod for 10pts less) Total cost = 555pts Why this? A) VV equipped thus cost the same as 5x TH/SS Terminators in a Drop Pod B) this: 3x Plasma pistols for ranged AP2 dakka 3x 3++ SS for tanking Wounds 3x AP3 melee weapons (Meph, Relic Blade, 2x LC) -5x Melta bombs + Meph w/ Sanguine Sword for anti-vehicle WS + 1 to ALL (Corbulo) I + 1 to ALL (Corbulo) I + 2 on the Charge (Corbulo + Baal Strike Force) FNP 5+ to ALL (Corbulo) This is expensive but against MEQs this is absolutely deadly...all 7 models attacking well before enemies can even process it. Make Corbulo the Warlord for extra lulz Command squad in comparison just seems weak to me: sure you get FNP for free (without another HQ) but you are locked at 5 models only 3 of which can be configured the way you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorBlack Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Command squad as a power weapon unit, use something else. Command squads as a shooting unit, with stormshield access and FNP works well. I haven't tried it yet, but as a storm shield bodyguard for someone like Mephiston would probably work well. I have been playing around ways to best support Mephiston (hasn't everyone?) and am leaning towards Vanguard Vets on foot for the Storm Shields. Why would you put him in command squad rather than a VV squad? Command Sq gives you FNP but you lose out on 2 more shields VV do offer the capability to carry *more* shields, but the command squad is better value *IF* you: you'll be taking lots of shots on characters (Meph included) with a 2+ save. FnP equates to giving Meph an extra wound. If you have, say, a TDA Libby in the unit as well, combined, the have about an extra 2 wounds. Statistically, this lets them tank an extra 12 AP4+ wounds that would have killed 4 storm shield bearers. The maths is more complicated than this, but the general idea is that if you're tanking AP 2 shots and stormshields and AP- shots on 2+ saves, FnP means you need less 2+ save tanks in the unit in order to maintain a high level of resilience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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