zedmeister Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Lots of nice new stuff: Deimos pattern Vindicator - £49.50 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Vindicator-laser-1.jpg Hellfire Plasma Cannonade - £18 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Deredeo-plasma-1.jpg Legion Mark IV Command Upgrade - £9.50 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/MkVI-Command-Upgrade.jpg Bunch of Raven Guard heads, pauldrons, and torsos: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAVEN_GUARD_MKVI_TORSOS.html http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAVEN_GUARD_MKVI_HEADS.html http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAVEN_GUARD_MKII_SHOULDER_PADS.html http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAVEN_GUARD_MKIII_SHOULDER_PADS.html http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAVEN_GUARD_MKIV_SHOULDER_PADS.html http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/RAVEN_GUARD_MKVI_SHOULDER_PADS.html As well as that the Vindicator with Laser Destroyer has had an official rules update An improvement, but still outclassed by the Sicaran Venator I reckon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Really dig the layered front armor look Forgeworld has going on with the Deimos Vindicator, really sells the AV13. The Dread bits are neat, I suppose, but it feels kinda weird to be pushing a static fire-support Dreadnought when the Contemptor Mortis has already been absolutely dominating that role. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4018855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I am waiting on a Volkite Carronade before I add a Deredo, but damn did FW tempt me by making the show model with Salamanders livery. Seriously you guys, why you do this :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4018943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The ti I g of the Raven Guard stuff is, bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4018974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Really dig the layered front armor look Forgeworld has going on with the Deimos Vindicator, really sells the AV13. The Dread bits are neat, I suppose, but it feels kinda weird to be pushing a static fire-support Dreadnought when the Contemptor Mortis has already been absolutely dominating that role. It has? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4018984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Neat stuff all around! Love the Vindicator's look, it just had a very aggressive front. And raven guard players rejoice! I'm sure some will be very happy at the lack of Polynesian influence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Love these new vindi rules, makes it more worthwhile to take now, as before it was just pants! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The RG bits are sooooo bland. There's better Mk. VI bits in plastic. FW has really dropped the ball on the last two Legion's upgrades. I thought the plasma Deredeo looked dumb at first, but seeing it painted up, I might like it more than the autocannon version. Fingers crossed for a volkite cannonade! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Well Legion guys, theres your answer to the Wraithknight. Two of these bad boys firing three shots each round. Of course our heavy slots are our most heavily contested slots so maybe not.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Canonade :D woooooooooooooooooo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Well Legion guys, theres your answer to the Wraithknight. Two of these bad boys firing three shots each round. Of course our heavy slots are our most heavily contested slots so maybe not.... Meh, if you know your facing any knight type, just take the onslaught force org chart Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I've always had a soft spot for the lasdestroyer vindicator, and the new rules give it the punch it really needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 How do you guys think it pairs up against say something like a Deredeo for killing tanks? Vindi is less points with S9 and AP1 but Deredeo has almost 100% accuracy, an extra shot, and I think Sunder might actually be better than ordinance. I just got out of stats class and I don't feel like running numbers (damn you ANOVA and chi squared!!!), would anyone like to compare he new Vindi rules against just the auocannons of the Deredeo against Av13 and 14? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 They do two different jobs, so no. Why bother? If you don't have other AA, then you take Deredeo. If you do have other AA, then the Vindicator becomes an option at the risk of being substandard AA. If you already have a Deredeo, then one is an option. I still feel it should be a 1-3 choice, but they're not exactly well known options in Heresy lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The RG bits are sooooo bland. There's better Mk. VI bits in plastic. FW has really dropped the ball on the last two Legion's upgrades. Isn't less supposed to be more where RG are concerned? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zedmeister Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 ...snip... I still feel it should be a 1-3 choice, but they're not exactly well known options in Heresy lists. Definitely. A nice tank, but with so many other options that offer more performance, the 1 per slot Vindicator is left in ships stores for now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Actually, I quite like the new RG bits. I just don't like beakies*. The other stuff??? Hmm... I dunno, not as much. *Heresy, I know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I got to say I actually like the Raven Guard sets, they're pretty cool, and I like the subtleness to them....all about how you'd paint them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I wish Tank Hunters could be taken in squadrons, overall I like the rules update and it fits with the wall busting theme of any son of Dorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The RG bits are sooooo bland. There's better Mk. VI bits in plastic. FW has really dropped the ball on the last two Legion's upgrades. I thought the plasma Deredeo looked dumb at first, but seeing it painted up, I might like it more than the autocannon version. Fingers crossed for a volkite cannonade! Your right about the blandness, although you could call that fluffy, the XIXth are not too big on decorations. To me it looks as if they have just used the existing RG kits and removed the purity seals. Still I like them, Mark VI has the advantage of being well supported plastic wise, so the potential for distinctive models is there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Anyone notice that the Antomantic Pavise (that 3" +1 invuln bubble) is now gone from the Deredeo's experimental rules entry? http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/D/Deredeo.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I wouldn't worry too much about it, the downloadable rules didn't include the plasma either until the preorder for the new gun came up (iirc), so once the pavise can actually be purchased the rule should come back... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I wouldn't worry too much about it, the downloadable rules didn't include the plasma either until the preorder for the new gun came up (iirc), so once the pavise can actually be purchased the rule should come back... Didn't notice that one since I went off the Sheet given out at the Weekender which included all the options :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The RG bits are sooooo bland. There's better Mk. VI bits in plastic. FW has really dropped the ball on the last two Legion's upgrades. If I wanted marines dripping in bling, I'd still be building 40k models. I think they're doing a great job with keeping the look very simple and restrained for the majority of the Legions. If the preview artwork is anything to go by, the XIII Legion will change all of that, but then they always were a bit obsessive about their decorations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I like the vindicator maybe it's just the paint scheme but I really like it. I think the gun looks a bit smaller than the one we saw at the weekender. Also the raven guard pack looks nice as well. A bit bland but hey rather have that than all of the Polynesian symbols. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306610-todays-forgeworld-goodies-vindicator-rules-update/#findComment-4019859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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