1+ Armour Save during battle

[Radagast's Raiders]

During a recent game, my Warlord acquired a 1+ armour save.

 

My warlord:

Sorcerer

Mastery level 3

Terminator Armour

Combi-Plasma gun

Force Weapon

Spell Familiar

Sigil of Corruption

Scrolls of Magnus

Mark of Tzeentch

 

Termie gives him a 2+/5(i) save

The sigil changes it to a 2+/4(i) save

The Mark of Tzeentch makes it a 2+/3(i) save.

 

During the game, this Character won a challenge (killed his Grey Knights Dreadknight in the first round of combat). When I rolled on the boon table, I got this result;

Mechanism: Armour Save improves by 1

 

He had a couple destroyer weapons in reserve so he didn't complain too much.

 

Looking back on that game, I was wondering if I did that correctly.

 

Do the rules specifically state an armour save can't be improved past 2+?

[Forté]

Always fail on a 1 anyway ;)

[the jeske]

7th caps armor saves at 2+.

[Lucio]

I thought a 1+ armour save still failed on a 1 but gave immunity to AP2 weapons.

[Forté]

Armour Save (Sv)

 

A warrior’s Armour Save gives it a chance to avoid harm when it is struck or shot. Most models have an Armour Save based on what kind of armour they are wearing, so this characteristic may be improved if they are equipped with better armour. Other creatures may receive a natural save from having thick bony plates or a chitinous shell. Unlike other characteristics, the lower an Armour Save is, the better. A model can never have an Armour Save better than 2+.

[Trevak Dal]

Always fail on a 1 anyway

Yeah, we play it as being a 2+ save on anything that isn't ap1.

Edit: Though we use it in a special scenario, a variation of relic where the relic is a individual in a life pod.

[Aspiringchaoschampion]

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

[Jolemai]

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

 

Could you quote the part in C:CSM which explicitly states that you may ignore the cap?

[Aspiringchaoschampion]

 

 

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

Could you quote the part in C:CSM which explicitly states that you may ignore the cap?

Not got the codex to hand but if my memory serves me correctly it just says the model gets +1 to its armour save. No cap mentioned

[Xenith]

 

 

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

Could you quote the part in C:CSM which explicitly states that you may ignore the cap?

Not got the codex to hand but if my memory serves me correctly it just says the model gets +1 to its armour save. No cap mentioned

 

 

Yes, however there is a cap in the rulebook. Unless the rule says 'this may improve the models armour beyond 2+' or the equivalent, then...it does not improve the models armour beyond 2+

[Forté]

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

The cap which I quoted is directly from the rulebook. And even if a 1+ was possible, you automatically fail on a 1 anyway.

[Chaeron]

 

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

The cap which I quoted is directly from the rulebook. And even if a 1+ was possible, you automatically fail on a 1 anyway.

 

 

And although certain powers would allow that die to be re-rolled - it's still a fail on a roll of a 1!

[Aspiringchaoschampion]

Bleurgh im thinking of the previous edition warriors of chaos book for fantasy ignore my comment lol

[Forté]

 

 

 

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

The cap which I quoted is directly from the rulebook. And even if a 1+ was possible, you automatically fail on a 1 anyway.

And although certain powers would allow that die to be re-rolled - it's still a fail on a roll of a 1!

Which would still fail if the second roll is a 1 (nice try but doesn't change the answer to the question ;) )

[Chaeron]

 

 

 

Codex over rides rule book in this case imho the boon table dosent cap the armour save

The cap which I quoted is directly from the rulebook. And even if a 1+ was possible, you automatically fail on a 1 anyway.

And although certain powers would allow that die to be re-rolled - it's still a fail on a roll of a 1!

Which would still fail if the second roll is a 1 (nice try but doesn't change the answer to the question ;) )

And you can't re-roll a re-roll! (Covering all bases :p )

[Radagast's Raiders]

During the game, we agreed rolls of one still failed, but it would allow armour saves for ap 2 weapons.

 

I hadn't seen the rule about the 2+ cap. Now I know to ignore the resalt or reroll if it happens again.

[Night Talon]

When it come to armour sv and chaos boon there is no where in the codex that say you can improve pass +2 or be able to save ap 2. The chaos boon would have no effect same as unworthy offering