Helias_Tancred Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Subject says it all. I'm building my Captain. He will have artificer armor and an iron halo. Which would be a better CC weapon for him, a power sword or a power fist? Both look cool and are from our tactical boxed set.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 btw his other weapon will be the relic plasma pistol Fury of Baal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Power sword allows for attacks at initiative, and the BlooDangles get 5th edition Furious charge (+1 initiative), Power fists would be 3 attacks at s9 with furious charge. You want to hit them fast or hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronhour Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 As above it will depend on his role but id go for valors edge over a standard powersword, better to have ap2 at initiative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yeah, Ap2 at initiative is money in the bank. BUT, it kind of relegates your guy to being a bully against Power Armor. What I mean is that, yes, you can go up against other players' HQs...but they are likely to be decked out in the New Hotness Power Armor that is a 3++ invulnerable save of some kind, so having ap2 is sort of irrelevant against that. The exception is the Killstreak power ax that Daemonkin get when it works with a Axe of Khorne used by a lord on a juggernaut. 5 Kills at i1 on a scrub unit buffs his base strength to 10, with the axe of khorne you hit at s10 ap2 at initiative. You could go after land raiders with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sounds like a powerfist would be the best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't think Fury of Baal is worthwhile. PErsonally for a captain I'd give him Valour's Edge and then if I wanted an upgraded pistol maybe a grav pistol but more likely a bolt pistol. I wouldn't do a power fist unless I was using a storm shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Valor's Edge and a Grav Pistol means he does mean things to most things in the game. Attach a meltabomb for the trifecta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Dependent on what you want him to do and who is around him when he does it. I don't believe he really works as a beatstick. Claw maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahlnor Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Thunder hammer and storm shield for the coolness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Power fist and Lightning claw is a popular one. Both specialist weapons so you get the extra attack and you can shred Marines or punch out carnifexes :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sounds like you don't have unlimited materials, so I'd note that you can convert a Power Fist into a lightning claw easily. You can also make a relic blade just by extending the handle of a power sword since there's no real official sense of what those look like. Captains have basically no value over other HQs apart from a slightly wider access to options and base initiative 5, so unwieldy weapons are a bad combination with them. Its kind of annoying how Space Marine's 'leader' option is just a beatstick while all their other HQs can actually buff our units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainsay Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 im new can anyone explain to me how you would use a power fist and lightning claw in combat? Do you pick which you will be using before attacking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 im new can anyone explain to me how you would use a power fist and lightning claw in combat? Do you pick which you will be using before attacking? Pretty much. You can only choose to use one weapon per phase, so say what weapon you're using before rolling To Hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 "Thunder hammer and storm shield for the coolness! " I had some milage with Claw Claw Captain and a Hammernator Squad The captain got to swing early, the hammernators swung hard, and not a lot was prepared to throw down a challenge, because the Sergeant could accept and smack it with a hammer Hammer and Claw has quite a reputation as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 For BA, if you're going with a pistol anyways, I say Valour's Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 I usually deploy my honor guard (command squad) with my captain. My honor guard has a meltagun, and other than that its bolters, bolt pistols, and chainswords. I'm re-tooling my veteran sergeant so he packs a better punch. Previously he was armed with a stormbolter and chainsword. So I have the opportunity to make a veteran sergeant and a captain whose armament compliment one another and will often be fighting together. Things I don't have: Shields of any kind Thunder Hammer /one handed. I have the two handed hammer that comes with the death company boxed set. right handed lightning claw. Everything else I pretty much have.. Combi weapons, power swords, tons of powerfists, every type of pistol, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 You realise the Command Squad's Champion has a set load out, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Atticus Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Red Fists are always the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 IMHO, the best loadout for a Captain is Artificer Armor, Jump Pack, Auspex, and either Valour's Edge & Grav Pistol, or twin Lightning Claws. If he's accompanied by a Command Squad, they're also strapped with jump packs and all 3 Veterans have a Storm Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 You realise the Command Squad's Champion has a set load out, right? Yes. He has his shield, sword, and a bolt pistol. IMHO, the best loadout for a Captain is Artificer Armor, Jump Pack, Auspex, and either Valour's Edge & Grav Pistol, or twin Lightning Claws. If he's accompanied by a Command Squad, they're also strapped with jump packs and all 3 Veterans have a Storm Shield. Why a grav pistol over an infernus pistol? Because of the concussive effect? Mine don't have JPs, they have a Razorback for transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Not only because of the concussive effect, but also because of the extended range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If you're going with an I1 weapon, I'd say he needs a bike. No point striking hard if you're going to be simultaneously squished by that powerfist wielding aspiring champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 If you're going with an I1 weapon, I'd say he needs a bike. No point striking hard if you're going to be simultaneously squished by that powerfist wielding aspiring champion. So maybe Valour's Edge and a good pistol would be better than going with a powerfist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 If you're going with an I1 weapon, I'd say he needs a bike. No point striking hard if you're going to be simultaneously squished by that powerfist wielding aspiring champion. So maybe Valour's Edge and a good pistol would be better than going with a powerfist? As we get Str and Ini 5 on the charge, valour's edge is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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