Hammer of Olympia Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So since FW just released the Iron warriors upgrade kit,it seems not Iron warriorny and looks carton-ish compared to the world eaters,death guards,and night lords. Anyone have opinions on this? http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IRON_WARRIORS_LEGION_MKII_HEADS.html http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IRON_WARRIORS_LEGION_MKII_TORSOS.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Look at Dantiochs use of the Kit. Doesnt look that bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The heads look absolutely fine, imo, but those torsos look like they were done by an after-market third party (I'm not implying any particular company, just to be clear). The quality and fine detail normally found in FW products is simply not there and it begs the question as to whether or not this is an effort done by a 'new guy' that was fast tracked through quality control - What the flying unicorns is a four pointed star supposed to represent? Where's the iron mask symbol that's ubiquitous amongst the Fourth Legion? Those skulls look like they were done by me! They are a massive let down for Iron Warrior players imo and should I ever do a second HH army (which would almost certainly be the arch nemeses to my Imperial Fists), it won't be using those torsos, I can tell you. Sorry. That sounded like a rant. I didn't mean for it to come out like that when I started typing. Edit - Typo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Yeah I keep wondering what the hell those stars are all about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Its handed out to those who Survive bringing Perty some bad news. Theres a reason there aren't any 2 Star Chests - they never live to tell him bad news thrice. -Wolf_Pack 2015 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 yeah that's how I feel,the heck is wrong with that star Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The only thing that has come close to a reasonable explanation, I believe, is from someone on 1st Expedition saying the star's four points represents the Iron Warriors being the fourth legion. It's a reach, and quite a long one, but it's the best I've heard so far that ties it to the existing framework of the lore. I still think it looks guff, though, regardless of the reasoning. Edit - Another typo. What the hell is up with me... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 hehe,FW says that they wont release another one. so we're stuck with this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 They're perfect for Unification era, for nearly any Legion. Look at the bright side, y'all. :) Anyhow, GW's old Iron Warrior upgrade is good enough for me, and looks better to boot. I'll probably pick up a pack of the new heads, just for variation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Perhaps that is FW's way of making sure that the Iron Warrior players are just as bitter and resentful of those of play other Legions as the in-universe Iron Warriors were toward the other Legions... In all seriousness, they don't look half bad once painted up. Not the best FW has ever done, but hardly the worst. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 We're bitter and resentful because we died in droves to clear the path for an Emperor who abandoned his own people. Now, we're just teaching the Tyrant of Earth that a paved road goes both ways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Psssh! Who needs an upgrade for chests when there's Mark III Iron Armor! I tried Googling the upgrade chest kit to see how they looked and couldn't find any painted. I think it's another case of the website photo not doing the finished product justice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Basic MkIII chests, with some DG upgrades thrown in, should do it better than these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Yeah, I've always thought the Death Guard and Iron Hands upgrades looked more like Iron Warriors than their own respective Legions. Anyone got a link to a painted Iron Warriors upgrade chest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I'm pretty tempted to start a small IV Legion force, but I'd definitely give the torso upgrades a miss. The good thing for the Iron Warriors is that both the Iron Hand and Death Guard torso upgrades would work nicely for adding some variety. Plus MkIII looks so good as it is. Edit: Haha, ninja'd by BCK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 At least you have an upgrade set - I kid. I agree that the star is odd, but worse for me is the belt buckle seems to be offset. It does look like a non-GW set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 At least you have an upgrade set - I kid. I agree that the star is odd, but worse for me is the belt buckle seems to be offset. It does look like a non-GW set. agree, but seeing the Death Guards Torso and Helmet, this will kinda work. Just slap some MK II with those torso and heads,pack them with Phobos bolters and I bet they will look awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak1508 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I would just use the MK II kit and replace the heads and matching shoulders, should look very nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 At least those helmets don't look like someone has shrunken the contents of the helmet and the helmet too... the DG heads look silly when next to a MkIII helm. But yes, the DG/IH torsos and IH heads are much better than several of the other upgrade sets. Even I have thought to ditch my DG heads and just mix in a few IH helms for my DG. I think the IW helms could probably work, but I would opt not to use the torsos when there are much better looking options. Alas, ever since someone linked the killer hockey mask (or whatever it is) from that film which looks just like the IW heads... I can't take them seriously at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 At least those helmets don't look like someone has shrunken the contents of the helmet and the helmet too... the DG heads look silly when next to a MkIII helm. But yes, the DG/IH torsos and IH heads are much better than several of the other upgrade sets. Even I have thought to ditch my DG heads and just mix in a few IH helms for my DG. I think the IW helms could probably work, but I would opt not to use the torsos when there are much better looking options. Alas, ever since someone linked the killer hockey mask (or whatever it is) from that film which looks just like the IW heads... I can't take them seriously at all. true to that,but atleast Death Guards got the helms from an artwork back in the days which is still awesome IMO http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/Linnear1701/40K/DeathGuard1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4027851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 That is true. Has there been any past artwork depicting the IW upgrade item designs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4028028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 That is true. Has there been any past artwork depicting the IW upgrade item designs? Some Legions weren't really represented in the HH card game and didn't see a bunch of cool card art, a lot of which FW has used to base models off of. Strangely, Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors are two of the ones that didn't really see much of anything IIRC. Also I think Alpha Legion and White Scars... So no, there's pretty much no precedent for the torsos. They're just oddballs until we see more IW stuff, such as the Iron Havocs or a command set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4028037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Like LetsYouDown said, but atleast IF got a cool set of upgrades,Alpha legion shouldn't get an upgrade set IMO,they're Alphas ! A legion of anonymous James Bond,so giving them upgrade could make it more easier to spot a legionary http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/SeditionsGate1-ppage.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4028372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Like LetsYouDown said, but atleast IF got a cool set of upgrades,Alpha legion shouldn't get an upgrade set IMO,they're Alphas ! A legion of anonymous James Bond,so giving them upgrade could make it more easier to spot a legionary http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/AlternativeBL/xlarge/SeditionsGate1-ppage.jpg There is so much variation within the XX Legion. Many of them will be 'anonymous James Bonds', but others will be ornamented and bling'd out like any other legion. Almost anything goes for the Alphas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4028387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 true,even Omegon got 3 armor in his locker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306990-iron-warriors-upgrade-kit-a-letdown/#findComment-4028395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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