The4thHorseman Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Did Space Marine Scouts as we know them in 40k exist in 30k? Or were there only Recon Marines, regular Marines trained as scouts? I know the whole Process to make a Space Marine did change from 30k to 40k, so is that why 40k scouts are like they are? I ask this because I want to know if fielding 40k scouts in a 30k arrmy is era correct, otherwise do I just use Recon Marines or is there a Gap FW has yet to Fill in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Did Space Marine Scouts as we know them in 40k exist in 30k? Or were there only Recon Marines, regular Marines trained as scouts? I know the whole Process to make a Space Marine did change from 30k to 40k, so is that why 40k scouts are like they are? I ask this because I want to know if fielding 40k scouts in a 30k arrmy is era correct, otherwise do I just use Recon Marines or is there a Gap FW has yet to Fill in? As far as we know, they dont exist. As for using 40k Scout models in 30k, Recon Marines have the option of trading Power Armor for Carapace so it works out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4039900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stofficus Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Aye, insofar as we know, "neophytes" as we conceive them in 40k really don't exist; post enhancement and training, aspirants seem to graduate directly into tactical sections and move on to various specialization from there. The whole Scout -> ASM -> Devestator -> Tactical -> Veteran thing really is a 40k artifice influenced by experiences with the Legions and a byproduct of the need for more direct battlefield training with slower training times and reduced recruitment pools/capacity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4039938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 but (!) you can use the 40k scout models, if you want that :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4041938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'm planning on doing a scout/recon squad for my Sons, but I have never liked the 40k scout minis, so mine will most likely be very heavily converted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4042407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I find that simply replacing the godawful head of the scout models does a lot for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4042872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I never cared for the look of the torso armor, the weird rebreather thing around the collar, and least of all the armored jockstrap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4042878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 On scouts, in the Night Lord Omnibus, there's a short about Talos recruitment. He seems to go through the whole scout first process and he is recruited pre Heresy. Of course ADB may have penned that before Forge World expanded the background of this era. Also there pictures of scouts in Collected Visions. World Eater scouts at that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4045782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorbookworm Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Vengeful Spirit shows some 'Scout Auxilia neophytes' (or something along those lines) running errands and generally helping out in the backlines of the Sons of Horus army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307506-heresy-era-scouts/#findComment-4046979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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