Khornestar Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 While I disagree on the raw, I agree on the intent, and am mostly arguing facetiously as a way to vent my annoyance at what seems to me to be a poorly thought out product. And 'exclusive rules' are imo terrible for the game altogether. Then I misunderstood you. I share your frustration at addressing our faction's crappy rules with formations rather than solid stats/points cost to begin with. But I will be saving up to buy a Kharybdis. There is so much potential. I love Berzerkers, and I'd rather they perform like the legendary ass kickers they're supposed to be. As for using the smaller pod as a proxy, it's definitely less than ideal for the reasons you gave but the opponent should be happier with the smaller model since less of his vehicles will be hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4046980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 lol for the price of it just convert a bunch of bastions and drop them. "I drop blood churches on my opponents heads and angry, bloodthirsty, maniac worshipers spill out after sermon intent on slaughter" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 lol for the price of it just convert a bunch of bastions and drop them. "I drop blood churches on my opponents heads and angry, bloodthirsty, maniac worshipers spill out after sermon intent on slaughter" "And then the churches shall fly away afterwards keen to spread the word of Blood." I'm actually pretty amazed, that is an awesome idea convert each bastion into a mobile shrine to Khorne, use plasticard to make the claws I'm sure it will be roughly the same size. Though you may get jerks trying to stop you from fielding them as such by claiming it is impossible to distinguish it as one (trust me it has happened) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 If not, grab a drop pod, grab some of the big necron Triarc stalker legs, put the drop pod missiles on the outside, bulk out with some plasticard and you're golden! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 "And then the churches shall fly away afterwards keen to spread the word of Blood." In the formation, the KACs are immobilized after landing on a building / vehicle anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Where does this formation come from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abadizzle Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Warhammer World exclusive "Blood Oath" campaign supplement Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Ah, well that's unfortunate. Makes it kinda hard for people in the states to get those rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 He said, posting on the internet.. I live in Ontaro, I have them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Nevermind this post. Someone answered this via PM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 By the way why is the zerker one worded like that , when the siccarius drop one lets them charge on the turn they deep strike as long as they don't shot? Kind of a odd to have two identical mechanics worded in a different way. Also if AA fire drops our pod can they still charge on the turn they land, as they technicly do disembark out of the blow up vehicle ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abadizzle Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I assume you mean interceptor fire jeske. With the kharybdis 'fist of khorne' formation, yes. By any other current means, no. (IA:13 pg.89 "drop pod assault" ...a unit that deep strikes via drop pod may not assault in the turn it arrives." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abadizzle Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Worded differently, I presume, because by rule the kharybdis is an assault vehicle. IA:13 prohibits you from assaulting the turn you arrive via deep strike. It does not, however, prohibit you from disembarking the turn you arrive. The 'fist of khorne' formations 'hungry for blood' special rule supercedes the 'can not assault the turn you arrive' restriction in IA:13. Convoluted explanation but there ya go. 'Hungry for blood' is worded just about the only way it can be worded to make sense. 'Tip of the spear' is an entirely different rule so... Sure makes sense that its... Well... Different Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 If an Interceptor blows it up, the passengers don't Disembark. They are just placed. No Disembark, no charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Interceptor happens at the end of the enemy player's (Daemonkin player's) movement phase, so wouldn't that allow the pod to crash down, 'zerkers to come out, and only then either could be shot at by a model with interceptor? And since it's an assault vehicle, if they waited for some reason to disembark until the pod has been on the table for 2 turns, they could still charge should it get blown up and they survive the explosion (I believe). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307735-fist-of-khorne-formation/page/2/#findComment-4047690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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