Olis Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Here's a cheeky little HQ build I quite like - Take a Centurion, upgrade him to a Moritat and give him a pair of Volkite Serpenta. Not only is he a Gunslinger (can fire two pistols at once) but Chain Fire allows you to keep making shooting attacks until you eventually miss. On top of that you have the Volkite special rule Deflagrate which allows you to inflict the same amount of hits automatically on a unit for every unsaved wound you make. Theoretically, you can wipe out whole squads with him. It probably won't happen, but it's possible. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4050887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 He's not a mandatory HQ, and below 2k isn't worth the investment imo... I'd focus on a Cebturion or a Praetor with a RoW that suits what you want to make. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4050964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ooh loyalist huh? I would take crysos Mortug. How would you like guaranteed infiltrate, guaranteed endurance, and the coolest psyker ever? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4051150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Like the ideas so far. can I use 30k lists against 40k lists? Is it even fun or competitive? Also, is there a sub forum on here to find other players in area? Lastly, what point level do you find the most fun? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4051186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Like the ideas so far.:D can I use 30k lists against 40k lists? Is it even fun or competitive? Also, is there a sub forum on here to find other players in area? Lastly, what point level do you find the most fun? As far as I know, it's pretty well balanced against 40k lists, but whether or not you can use it will depend who you ask. And pretty much the bigger the better for 30k. Probably 2500pts up is where it really comes into its own from what I gather. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4051371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Also, is there a sub forum on here to find other players in area? I suggest trying this subforum if you wish to try finding players in your area: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forum/128-community/ Failing that, have a ganders around this subforum - many members have where they are from in their own profile. Lastly, what point level do you find the most fun? As has been said, bigger is better. 2000 points would be a good level to aim for, I'd say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4051398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Legion lists work best at the 2k or higher mark, they don't scale as well at lower points but you can certainly still use them without difficulties. They aren't overpowered against 40k lists, in fact they are more well balanced internally and externally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4051547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 If you're looking to try the game out without dropping too much, look into Zone Mortalis. Small games usually 1,500 points or less. Gives you a good idea of how the mechanics work, your Legion's Special Rules, and honestly it's just plain fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4051623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks everyone again! Where is the best place to post a hobby project log on here? Because I've seen them in the WIP, hall of honors, and Age of Darkness. It would be purely HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4052331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 If you are posting a project only part the way through (or from the beginning) then the WIP is a good bet. If you are posting a completed project, then the Hall of Honour is best. Note that the HH subforum, because of the subject, is good either way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4052338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 KK sounds good! Hardest part is waiting for new shiny's to arrive! Hopefully will have book and models in hand by this weekend. Is there anything you guys have found to be very fun in the game or auto-includes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4052601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Each person is different, so what one might consider auto-include may very well not even be on the table for another. That Moritat that I told you about at the top of the page? I reckon he's an auto-include for me, because of the cheeky nature of the build (that and I really like Volkite weapons). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4052954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Auto include? Tactical Troops and Cataphractii Terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 1 HQ and 2 Troops :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 You guys got jokes..... hahahahahahaha Really hope my books and models show up today. Next week looks like all rain, perfect hobby weather Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 So thinking of creating my list around Ullis Temeter. 4th company Caption who stayed loyal. Basically sacrificing himself to save his troops. But, I can't find and quotes or description of his gear. Anybody got anything out there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 As a relatively minor character, it's unlikely his gear is mentioned. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I think you're going to have to guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Guess that's not bad then, kind of get to design my own. Like I said, my books should arrive today or tomorrow. But, during a game if you are playing an army like DG, do you choose if you are traitor or loyal? So if I was playing against a loyalist army, I could choose traitor or vice versa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Guess that's not bad then, kind of get to design my own. Like I said, my books should arrive today or tomorrow. But, during a game if you are playing an army like DG, do you choose if you are traitor or loyal? So if I was playing against a loyalist army, I could choose traitor or vice versa I assume you pick in list construction, some legions have things that are exclusive to traitors (World Eaters have different rules for traitors I think? And there's loyalist characters from a couple of traitor legions). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4053984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Each person is different, so what one might consider auto-include may very well not even be on the table for another. That Moritat that I told you about at the top of the page? I reckon he's an auto-include for me, because of the cheeky nature of the build (that and I really like Volkite weapons). I used to run a twin plasma pistol Moritat for my SoH... I'm still bitter he got nerfed out of viable play :-( lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4054004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Each person is different, so what one might consider auto-include may very well not even be on the table for another. That Moritat that I told you about at the top of the page? I reckon he's an auto-include for me, because of the cheeky nature of the build (that and I really like Volkite weapons).I used to run a twin plasma pistol Moritat for my SoH... I'm still bitter he got nerfed out of viable play :-( lol But on the bright side, volkite moritats! *choom x100* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4054027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehip Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 My books arrived, holy crap there is a lot in here. I purchased the gamer's collection. Trying to find the rules for Rad-phage. Anyone got a page number? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4057596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 My books arrived, holy crap there is a lot in here. I purchased the gamer's collection. Trying to find the rules for Rad-phage. Anyone got a page number? Not sure about page numbers but it'll be either with the rad missile launcher in the LACAL book (pretty sure they have it) or with the DG stuff in the Istvaan legions one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4057613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If you look in the back of Betrayal, it's on page 287. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4057624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If he got the gamers collection that's just the two red books though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/307804-new-to-30k-starting-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-4057626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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