New to 30k - imperial Fists 3000 Points

[Masterplan96]

Just got my first 30k army knowing very little about it and based the army list on the Stone Gauntlet and models I liked.

 

Playing my first 3000 point game next week and would appreciate any hints or tips on wargear as the models are everything I currently own! Its about 2900 as it stands so room to tweak wargear and tactics.

 

 

Praetor

 

Cataphracti Armour

Mastercrafted Paragon Blade

Volkite Charger

 

 

Centurion (Legion Champion)

 

Artificer Armour

Charnal Sabre

Volkite Serpenta

Melta Bombs

Refractor Field

 

 

2 x 10 Man Breacher Squads

 

Sergeant - Artificer Armour, Power sword

Meltagun

 

1 x Tactical Support Squad with Flamers

 

Sergeant - Artificer Armour + Melta Bombs

 

 

Contemptor Talon

 

1 x 2 TL Lascannon

 

1 x Multi Melta

 

1 x Kheres AC

 

 

Terminator Squad

 

Cataphracti Armour + 4 Time Power Fist

Landraider Phobos with Armoured Ceramite

 

 

Templar Brethern

 

5 x Combat Shield

Mastercrafted Plasma Pistol

Vexillia

Landraider Phobos with Armoured Ceramite

 

 

1 x Landraider Phobos with Armoured Ceramite (HS Choice)

 

1 x Vindicator with Armoured Ceramite and HK Missile

 

[ThatOneMarshal]

As a templar player It makes me happy to see so many land raiders out. So looking at the list, I like it. Just some thoughts. I would take out the power fists in the squad and keep maybe 2-3 and replace the rest with power axes. I would take the plasma pistol out as it's mostly filler and expensive. I would make the one contemptor with lascannons a Mortis for anti air, which you pack in the list. On the legion champ I would try to get rid of the charnable saber and replace with something like a power sword. I'm not sure what special weapon to put in the breacher squad but I think a melta gun might be wasted because most vehicles have armored ceramtie. Maybe a charger? I would take off the serpenta on the champion as well. On the breacher squads maybe add melta bombs to the squad so they can deal with anti armor.

 

What army will you being playing against? Good luck! Hope to see a battle report.

[Phalanx Warder]

I too love the Gantlet of Stone this is what my 3000 points looks like:

 

• HQ (165pts)
Alexis Polux (165pts)
The Stone Gauntlet

• Troops (1015pts)

Legion Breacher Siege Squad (X15) (365pts)
3x Graviton Gun, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Artificer Armour

Legion Breacher Siege Squad (X15) (370pts)
3x Graviton Gun, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs

 

Legion Tactical Squad (280pts)
19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Artificer Armour

• Elites (670pts)
Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought (180pts)
Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (55pts)
Laser Destroyer Array

 

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (55pts)
Laser Destroyer Array

Legion Terminator Squad (380pts)
Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, 7x Legion Terminators, Pair of Lightning Claws, Power Fist, Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Thunderhammer, 4x Vigil Pattern Storm Shield

• Heavy Support (525pts)
Legion Heavy Support Squad (320pts)
Autocannons, Hardened Armour, 9x Legion Space Marines, Hardened Armour, Artificer Armour

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (205pts)
Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Lascannons


• Lord of War (625pts)
Legion Glaive Special Weapons Tank (625pts)

 

 

I think that you may have issues with your small amounts of infantry that you have but you do have a ton of AV14

[sanguine8082]

I too love the Gantlet of Stone this is what my 3000 points looks like:

 

• HQ (165pts)

Alexis Polux (165pts)

The Stone Gauntlet

 

• Troops (1015pts)

Legion Breacher Siege Squad (X15) (365pts)

3x Graviton Gun, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Artificer Armour

 

Legion Breacher Siege Squad (X15) (370pts)

3x Graviton Gun, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs

 

Legion Tactical Squad (280pts)

19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Artificer Armour

 

• Elites (670pts)

Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought (180pts)

Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons

 

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (55pts)

Laser Destroyer Array

 

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (55pts)

Laser Destroyer Array

 

Legion Terminator Squad (380pts)

Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, 7x Legion Terminators, Pair of Lightning Claws, Power Fist, Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Thunderhammer, 4x Vigil Pattern Storm Shield

 

• Heavy Support (525pts)

Legion Heavy Support Squad (320pts)

Autocannons, Hardened Armour, 9x Legion Space Marines, Hardened Armour, Artificer Armour

 

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (205pts)

Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Lascannons

 

 

• Lord of War (625pts)

Legion Glaive Special Weapons Tank (625pts)

 

 

I think that you may have issues with your small amounts of infantry that you have but you do have a ton of AV14

Have you used the Glaive in many battles?  I was torn whether to order one or not.  My game store has a loose FW policy, and I can imagine that thing utterly roasting some Tyranids, i mean *cough* Megarachnids *cough*.  I'm not sold on Siege Breacher marines.  

[Slips]

Breachers are very much a Defensive Units. You dont play with them Forward, at all. Use their Invulnerable Saves vs Ap3 and FNP from any attached Apothecaries to your benefit alongside Defensive Grenades Neutering any Charge Bonuses. Their Pricey but now that we understand their complete package more, they arent that over costed.

 

The Glaive is a Monster that will destroy pretty much anything you point it at; especially if its Blobs or Mechanical. S8 Ap2 Deflagrate with that Heavy Beam is Nasty. Not to mention Haywire.

 

The only big problem I see in your list is too many Small, Expensive Units.

 

2 10 man Breachers I can forgive, but pumping them up in numbers can only be a good thing.

 

1 5 Man Flamer Support Squad wont do Jack for you. Too Few Marines and Flamers arent as good as their Other Weapon Options such as Plasma Guns or Volkites.

 

Dreads are fine though as are 2 Las Rapiers.

 

a Total of 35 Bodies and 3 Tanks at 3k Is rather Low, imo. I'd rather scrap the Flamer Squad and the Legion Champion (who literally fills the same role as a Preator only not as good) for more Bodies in your Squads and More, better upgrades.

 

Case and Point, the Plasma Pistol on your Templar Squad. They're a CC unit, if you shoot at what you're going to charge and kill something, that might be all that stands between a successful charge or not; and for the points, you could get a Solarite Power Gauntlet on the Champion which is a MC, Ap1 Power Fist without Specialist Weapon.

 

And since you fit the Minimum Requirements for it, I'd also strongly consider the Stone Gauntlet RoW for T5 Breacher Marines.

 

 

Oh, and you'll want vexillas on anything that can take one since we dont have "And They Shall Know No Fear". Morale is Important now and re-rolling failed morale is great.

[Masterplan96]

Cheers for all this.

 

The reason the army is small units wise was it is was a commission, initially for using it at 2500 points. That's why there is a lot of wargear and upgrades at the moment. Needed a 3rd troops choice to allow 3 elites due to the stone gauntlet and liked the flamer squad so more taste rather than competitive edge for them.

 

Next steps I think are a couple of tactical squads and a sicarian and maybe expand the breacher squads.

[Masterplan96]

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Land Raider Porn.

[Masterplan96]

Just got another 5 Templars but not sure whether to run them as 2 squads of 5 or one big one?

[Masterplan96]

So as well as being up to ten Templars I now have a Sigismund, a Medusa and a ten man support squad with Volkite Calivers. Looking at changing the Chapter Champion to a master of signal to run with them.