varchilde Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 So something I've been mulling over for the last week or so. I played a game last weekend with a fairly straight forward Grey Knight NSF list; libby, termies, dread knights, purifiers in a raven. I'd been in two minds about who to make the warlord, and in the end decided with the librarian. Long story cut short, the libby killed himself on a perils, giving away slay the warlord (Doh!). Up until that point my thinking about who to make the Warlord was about which traits would best benefit him or the army (luck gods allowing). However, I'm now looking at the Warlord selection with a different criteria; which model is best suited to survive, and hence not give away Slay the Warlord. How do you approach Warlord selection? What criteria do you use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 There is some truth in making one of your NDKs your Warlord, although I'm generally against it as my NDKs are huge targets that should be shot at, while my Libby is much smaller and attached to a bigger wound pool. That said, I can empathize with the problem. However, I still feel strongly that the Libby gains the most from being Warlord while retaining the highest survivability. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4053892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casb1965 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Look at the Warlord traits table and see which unit benefits the most from it and you'll find that most are best for putting on a figure in a unit so the Libby works best as your warlord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4053935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenderleech Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 *shifty look* I've been making my terminator justicar the warlord fairly often. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4054179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
varchilde Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Kenderleech: care to explain your thinking behind that choice? Is there a particular trait you hope to get, or some other reason? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4054187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casb1965 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm guessing that the Libby and NDK are first targets, nobody would single out a Justicar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4054244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
varchilde Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 That would be my line of thinking as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4054271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 DK's are on paper hilarious Warlords, but as Jeff points out, they're already huge bullet magnets and usually die anyway. Librarians are still a target, but they're easier to hide if you have to, and giving up Slay the Warlord too easily can cost you games. Personally, I shell out for a Grand Master in larger games. He's not only got the support of a Librarian, he's also a melee monster who shoots quite well with his Relentless psycannon. Pricey (around DK cost depending on upgrades), but if you stick Cuirass on him he's quite difficult to murder (especially if you're pawning S8+ wounds onto his bodyguard using Look Out Sir!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4054560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
varchilde Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 All good thoughts. A second HQ is an interesting approach, and I do have a few other HQ models (including a psycannon toting GM). I agree that price is an issue. I tend to play my GKs at around 1750 points, and tying up a further 200ish points in HQ doesn't sit comfortably with me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4054974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 There is nothing wrong with taking 2x Librarians over a single Grand Master. It's more a fluff thing for me, because one of the key aspects of our League campaign is that we have an Avatar (ie a single hero that represents you on the battlefield). In my case, I'm taking Vardan Kai, Grandmaster of the 1st. He's making his debut at Round 3, which is 1500 points. I think below that, Librarians are just more cost-effective for your HQ slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308014-who-should-be-the-warlord/#findComment-4055875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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