calvin the wraithlord Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Ive spent a good amount of time on my heresy army over the last few weeks probley in the region of about 4000 points now if not more, but as im painting away at my power armour i cant help feeling that im lacking something. As all of you who spend alot of time painting will know there’s nothing better than getting your brush in about a nice big fancy special character!!! And here i believe is my problem!! As a EC player we dont have any yes we have rules but unlike say the sons of horus, word bearers etc we dont have actual models to represent them, and you cant stick a Primarch down in every single game!! And we're not the only legion!! Ive painted up fulgrim, i even converted a Solomon Demeter(my personal favorite!), lord commander eidolon and a julius kaesoron and yet i still feel abit miffed! I mean personally if it was up to me all the captains of all the legions would have rules and models, tarik torgaddon, little horus, gabriel santar etc. But i suppose asking for specific models for EVERYONE from forgeworld would be abit to much and honestly in the end i don’t mind converting that much, i just wish more heroic figures from the heresy had rules!!!! So the first question im putting to you guys is, do you think its likely? In the future will rules appear for our heresy favourites or will be be left to tailor legions champions and praetors to suit our needs? My second point is a more selfish one, as i mentioned above alot of these characters dont have models or rules, and again like i said, to expect them all to have those things would be asking to much, but again for certain individuals is it? As an EC player i really have to ask, where is Lucius? i mean the guy is still kicking ass 10 thousand years in the future surly he deserves some representation in the 30k universe? Or even Apoco Fabius :P ? I am just a damn sucker for putting down big heros on the battle field and i really want to have a stunning model and a half decent set of rules to back said model up, (i.e sigusmund!!) So my second question, being more of a personal nature and directly aimed at a certain someone. Do you guys recon we're likely to see Lucius in the near future? Or do you think the time has passed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I imagine Lucius will get rules in the future. Some characters we'll probably see, but moving forward, so some like Torgaddon I doubt we'll see, as its passed the time he'd have been in it. But Lucius is still kicking around so we'll probably see him at some point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I imagine Lucius will get rules in the future. Some characters we'll probably see, but moving forward, so some like Torgaddon I doubt we'll see, as its passed the time he'd have been in it. But Lucius is still kicking around so we'll probably see him at some point. i'm sure we will see Tormageddon :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I imagine Lucius will get rules in the future. Some characters we'll probably see, but moving forward, so some like Torgaddon I doubt we'll see, as its passed the time he'd have been in it. But Lucius is still kicking around so we'll probably see him at some point. i'm sure we will see Tormageddon :P We might do. I'm not sure he's a big enough part really but we'll see. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I imagine Lucius will get rules in the future. Some characters we'll probably see, but moving forward, so some like Torgaddon I doubt we'll see, as its passed the time he'd have been in it. But Lucius is still kicking around so we'll probably see him at some point.i'm sure we will see Tormageddon We might do. I'm not sure he's a big enough part really but we'll see. haha, even Samus, khornes' biggest loser got a model :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Y'know, as I posted I remembered Samus haha. Speaking of which, I didn't get that he was a Khorne daemon from the books at all. But yeah maybe we will then. I'm willing to put money on getting Lucius at some point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Y'know, as I posted I remembered Samus haha. Speaking of which, I didn't get that he was a Khorne daemon from the books at all. But yeah maybe we will then. I'm willing to put money on getting Lucius at some point. Damn man i hope so!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hopefully we will get Lucius and garro in the future. Little horus maybe as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hopefully we will get Lucius and garro in the future. Little horus maybe as well. Aye Garro is one i ment to mention above, like Lucius i really am shocked theres still no release, also like Lucius i really really hope his rules live up to his fluff!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4056968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Be good if his rules do! Might bring ec back into the fight as 'legion creep' becomes more and more obvious with tempest. I'd love to see Marius rules and maybe updated usable kakophoni rules for a retinue. Julius kaeseron and updated useable phoenix guard rules as a retinue. Maybe theyl get terrata with Fabius And fulgrim gets weird followers like in angel exterminatus!! Any of the above would do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4057204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Be good if his rules do! Might bring ec back into the fight as 'legion creep' becomes more and more obvious with tempest. I'd love to see Marius rules and maybe updated usable kakophoni rules for a retinue. Julius kaeseron and updated useable phoenix guard rules as a retinue. Maybe theyl get terrata with Fabius And fulgrim gets weird followers like in angel exterminatus!! Any of the above would do man you are literally reading my mind!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4058203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Be good if his rules do! Might bring ec back into the fight as 'legion creep' becomes more and more obvious with tempest. I'd love to see Marius rules and maybe updated usable kakophoni rules for a retinue. Julius kaeseron and updated useable phoenix guard rules as a retinue. Maybe theyl get terrata with Fabius And fulgrim gets weird followers like in angel exterminatus!! Any of the above would do man you are literally reading my mind!!!!! Any loyal followers of the phoenix lodge think this way! Could do lucius with the laer sword even Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4058244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I like that they don't have models for all of the special characters as it leaves something for the interpretation of the character by the individual players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4058309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I honestly think the two limited characters were a step in the right direction. They don't even need to make the next set new consul choices, just create new special characters for each legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4058323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'd imagine there'll be a couple of XII/XIII/XVII characters included in volume VI. I know Argel Tal was earmarked but whether that's still accurate I can't say. Going forward, at least for those who have already had the treatment, I like that some of the characters are not just exclusively from the BL books. It gives a lot of license to us gamers to do what we will for them. I'd like to see Lucius because I think he could be sculpted brilliantly, not from any desire for his rules and the same applies to the other Legions in betrayal - there's not enough there to get me really invested in them. Of course I like characters like Little Horus but not enough to justify giving him rules at the expense of others who could be more interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4058683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Someone somewhere on something mentioned Argal Tal might be next book. So great salty mountains and such Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Well, FW mentioned it at a weekender, when book6 was gonna be the Shadow Crusade, but now they aren't sure if that is what book 6 is gonna be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 I think its more just my attitude as a player, i love putting down special characters, especially ones that can kick ass!! And being a EC player i cant very well just field Fulgrim in every game and ive never had much love for Lord Commander uphimself Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'd much rather make up my own character and play. The Heresy was a massive war with countless heroes that will never have been mentioned in text. It's cool to be able to drop famous warriors on the field, but they would be few and far between. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Great if your group lets you do that, problem is there'l always be one that goes ott! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Well no, I mean just a Praetor. But technically there is a character creator in Massacre, albeit for a Kill Teamesque game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Well no, I mean just a Praetor. But technically there is a character creator in Massacre, albeit for a Kill Teamesque game. There is one in Conquest too for larger campaigns and is a bit more in depth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4059614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolltonotdie Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Be good if his rules do! Might bring ec back into the fight as 'legion creep' becomes more and more obvious with tempest. I'd love to see Marius rules and maybe updated usable kakophoni rules for a retinue. Julius kaeseron and updated useable phoenix guard rules as a retinue. Maybe theyl get terrata with Fabius And fulgrim gets weird followers like in angel exterminatus!! Any of the above would do The cults list in Tempest could possible work for Fulgrims little carnival of horrors. Stick to penal legionesque squads (ive forgotten what theyre called) for masses of pretty poor meat shields and that should do it. As to the main point of the thread, I think it would be nice to have rules, perhaps in the future we'll get a "Heroes and Villains of the Horus Heresy" style book with just rules for characters in to give us rules for those missing. Its a long shot but we live in hope. Obviously more shiny models would be nice but I'd be happy enough to kitbash if it came down to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4060403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Be good if his rules do! Might bring ec back into the fight as 'legion creep' becomes more and more obvious with tempest. I'd love to see Marius rules and maybe updated usable kakophoni rules for a retinue. Julius kaeseron and updated useable phoenix guard rules as a retinue. Maybe theyl get terrata with Fabius And fulgrim gets weird followers like in angel exterminatus!! Any of the above would do The cults list in Tempest could possible work for Fulgrims little carnival of horrors. Stick to penal legionesque squads (ive forgotten what theyre called) for masses of pretty poor meat shields and that should do it. As to the main point of the thread, I think it would be nice to have rules, perhaps in the future we'll get a "Heroes and Villains of the Horus Heresy" style book with just rules for characters in to give us rules for those missing. Its a long shot but we live in hope. Obviously more shiny models would be nice but I'd be happy enough to kitbash if it came down to it. You actually took exactly what i was going to post and said it!!! :P I agree 100% man Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308108-special-characters/#findComment-4060731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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