Mippie Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Hey, So i have been building my vanguard and rangers with seperate bodies and then painting the bodies and legs apart, now i have come to building them i am finding the fit to be extremely tight :( Potentially this could be because i have layered on a little heavy, anyone else had a similar experience? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 The fit is generally tight WITHOUT a coat of paint. My suggestion is to scrape off the paint directly adjacent to where you plan to glue them (so it doesn't ruin your paint job) and help form a better seal. One of the downsides to pre-painting unassembled parts is that if the join is bad and you need to trim or use filler (Green Stuff et al) then you'll need to repaint what doesn't slot perfectly. The upside is avoiding messing up your nice detail work when having to get little spots between the legs and robes or chest plates/guns, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4068818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
korban Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I got pretty annoyed with the assembly too. That each torso matches one specific set of legs. Love the detail, but they should be way more interchangeable and posable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mippie Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Oh really? I think I may have found my problem then haha..I did the marine standard and just snipped away.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yeah, the new kits are crazy. I do the arms, backpack and body separate, but you really have to follow the manual and keep the bitz apart from one another. Messed up my scions a bit, but I learned from that experience. I left my unused Scions and AdMech bitz on the sprue rather then a bitzbox so I can keep track of their numbers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yeah, the new kits are crazy. I do the arms, backpack and body separate, but you really have to follow the manual and keep the bitz apart from one another. Messed up my scions a bit, but I learned from that experience. I left my unused Scions and AdMech bitz on the sprue rather then a bitzbox so I can keep track of their numbers. I use bead bracelet parts storage containers for my bitsz. enough sub-spaces for a kit per container, and they work a treat for about $1.50. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurvydog Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 They do fit rather exact to the manual, specific legs matching specific torsos and following that I had no problem assembling them, it clicks exactly into place, but I guess it might be annoying of total freedom is what you seek. To be fair there is a good deal of variety in said torso/leg compositions so the units still look rather varied and dynamic I think, making some of the best looking units just from simply following the manual. I sorted them into neat little piles of matching legs/torso/backpacks assembling them so I had each model in those 3 major parts, which was easy enough to paint, some might prefer not putting on the arms and gun though before painting. Now if only GW had provided 3 arc rifles/plasma culverins in each 10 man box... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mippie Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don't even get me started on the weapons, they have been so proud and smug about giving the kataphron and kastellan all the options...whhhyyyy not the skitarii :-( Well lessons learnt, I'll number the torsos and legs for the next group haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I believe the reason that we get only 1 of each special weapon for the Skitarii box is because they're something of a loss leader for GW, meaning that they don't make as much money per box sold (compared to Kataphrons or Electro-Priests, for example). Therefore, GW want us to buy more Skitarii boxes to make up the difference. That said, it shouldn't be too hard to convert some extra Plasma Calivers or Arc Rifles if you need them, assuming you're willing to buy into the rest of the AdMech range. The Kataphron box, in particular, can be used to convert additional Skitarii weapons rather easily. For example, you could use the plasma canisters from the side of the Plasma Culverin to convert an IG/SM Plasma Gun into a Caliver, or you could re-cut a Heavy Arc Rifle from the same kit into an (albeit large) Arc Rifle. While the Skitarii themselves don't re-pose terribly well, weapon swapping is actually relatively easy in my experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mippie Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think production costs versus sale price they are doing alright lol! Probably made back the mould costs in the first week of skitarii release judging on how hard it was to get hold of stuff! Yeah I'll just do some conversions, just makes me a sad panda is all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4069842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Of course GW can't have been sure how well a new army would do. The Forgeworld Mechanicum showed a potential market but they still would have seen it as a gamble. One that I'm pretty sure has paid off. If they haven't already been designed I'm expecting they have Jes Goodwin right now designing a flyer and other expansions to the army for next edition, though i'm betting more likely a white dwarf and campaign set supplemental release like the Tyranids got in Shield of Baal Leviathan between now and next edition.Forgeworld also will have paid attention and i'm sure are getting beset by calls to allow Mechanicum units in 40k and Skitarii/Cult ones in 30k. I would not be surprised if, like they made the devourer guns for the Flyrant which regularly ends up on their best-seller lists, that they might make some extra Skitarii weapon packs eventually. It will be very interesting to see what comes out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4070954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The sprues are packed as it is. Adding another 6 guns would mean adding a fourth sprue to the box, and all the attendant tooling costs. Remember, GW don't aim to be merely profitable, they target a specific and very high margin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4071302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 More than the leg-bidy pairing, it was the specific arms on specific bodies at specific angles that did for me on a couple of occasions. I only had to really cover one mistake with extra bits, though . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4071394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 After assembling a box of Kataphron Destroyers (nearly), I can say that Skitarii are positively a joy by comparison. Yes, a bit restrictive in design, but honestly I'm glad they don't have more parts to deal with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308638-building-vanguard-and-ranger-woes/#findComment-4071481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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