arkagl Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I had a question brought up to me and I wasn't sure how to answer it. If you summon daemons to the table using the Blood Tithe does the daemons summoned now count as being part of the say Slaughtercult formation if the Slaughtercult is the only formation? If yes then what about multiple formations? Also what about when you turn a characters into a Daemon Prince or Bloodthirster? Reason this was brought up was for the Slaughtercult formations Blood tithe chart's perk about the second perk, and the Daemon Cohort formation with the deep strike HQ perk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I would say they are not part of the cult, or any other formation, they are simply summoned units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/#findComment-4069970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 There's no real help in the rules for this question in respect of any conjured or Summoned unit so in the absence of any support for them being part of any Detachment or Formation the default position must be that they are not part of any Detachment or Formation. Which kinda sucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/#findComment-4070018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 If you had a standard CAD army that summoned a troops daemon unit, would it have objective secured? Exactly the same premise here (unless the conjuring rules specifically comment on it) Edit: only mention in the conjuring rules is term "allies" (lower case). Personally I just see them as extra and therefore wouldn't gain benefits of detachments/formations. Although, they would still have the BFTBG rule, of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/#findComment-4070987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 This was brought up in the OR Forum about a week and a half ago. For the summoned units to receive Objective Secured, they need to be included in the CAD during the army building process as only those in the CAD get Obj Sec. So the question is, can you add to your CAD once the game has started? The answer is no and thus, summoned units wont get Obj Sec. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/#findComment-4071017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkagl Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 That's what I thought but I wasn't sure and couldn't justify why thanks guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/#findComment-4071204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I think the RAI is that they join the Detachment of the conjurer/summoner, but as mentioned the RAW simply doesn't support that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308687-about-daemonkin-formations-and-summoning/#findComment-4071244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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