Ming Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 From WD 47, which is a must buy for all BA players.... Angels Wrath is that formation where i take squad of Vanguard and two squads of assault marines, all with jump packs. They come from reserves with their meteoric impact rule, etc. Can a IC from another detachment/formation join one of these units in reserves, and they all still arrive w/ benefits per the rules for the formation, or does adding the IC change the situation? I've not been using more than one detachment or formation in a game, so just wondering the impact in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 As far as I know, no, an IC can't as formations are used as presented with no modifications allowed. This could be wrong though, I suppose if he has made Jump pack it could be argued he could deploy with them, but he wouldn't get the impact rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wouldn't the IC be part of the unit, though? I'd be inclined to think that as long as you provide the units listed in the formation, the rules would apply. The Angel's wing could prove quite effective along with that formation. I think if it was forbidden, it would say so like in the old Heroic Intervention rule. Snorri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucumon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 So, I use Angel's Fury... but I will stick a Sanguinary Priest from my CAD in with them for extra protection when they jump to an objective. I am assuming this is correct as no one has stopped me. I'd imagine if you included an IC with a jump pack, they could join one of the units in Angel's Wrath and would be able to drop in... what would the IC benefit from the formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'd imagine if you included an IC with a jump pack, they could join one of the units in Angel's Wrath and would be able to drop in... what would the IC benefit from the formation? He would gain everything. Both benefits are unit based. ICs attached to a unit are part of that unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 He definitely wouldn't get the meteoric descent rule as he is not part of the formation, even if he joined it. He would arguably not scatter if he joined a unit of assault Marines, but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 He wouldn't individually, no. But the Unit would, and he becomes part of the Unit. At least, that's how I would read it. But it's definitely not clear how to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 OK! Thanks! For now I'll assume if he is attached to the formation (say, to the Vanguard Unit), he does not change or impact the formation's rule set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronhour Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 OK! Thanks! For now I'll assume if he is attached to the formation (say, to the Vanguard Unit), he does not change or impact the formation's rule set. I get the impression you wanted to know if adding him effected how the formation worked? If that's the case the answer is no. He gives fnp to his unit but all the units keep the half/non scatter and the hits on enemy units in 6" thing etc. Plus if you gave him the Angels wing you could buff the unit by them not being to be intercepted as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Hey...forgot about that. Was thinking simple JP and Auspex.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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