Hammer of Olympia Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Olla So I made this list for a starter game with my hombre in the FLGS,so I made 2 list, please give me your comments and critiques on how I can make the list better,and ah I pick 1000 pts because this is where me and my hombre choose to be our base pts before making more models. 1st list,Jetbike heavy HQ (265pts) Legion Centurion (135pts)Artificer Armour, Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon, Refractor Field Legion Centurion (130pts)Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Power Armour ConsulPrimus Medicae Troops (300pts) Legion Tactical Squad (150pts)9x Legion Tactical Space Marines Legion Tactical Squad (150pts)9x Legion Tactical Space Marines Fast Attack (435pts) Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (435pts)Melta Bombs, Sky Hunter Sergeant, 9x Space Marine Sky Hunters, 3x Volkite Culverin 2nd list,Jetbike + Sicarian HQ (265pts) Legion Centurion (135pts)Artificer Armour, Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon, Refractor Field Legion Centurion (130pts)Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Power Armour ConsulPrimus Medicae Troops (300pts) Legion Tactical Squad (150pts)9x Legion Tactical Space Marines Legion Tactical Squad (150pts)9x Legion Tactical Space Marines Fast Attack (260pts) Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (260pts)6x Space Marine Sky Hunters, 2x Volkite Culverin Heavy Support (175pts) Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (175pts)Lascannons So what do you all think about the list? I like the Culverin cause they pack a lot of punch and the deflagrate rule is awesome vs infantries At the moment I dont have any model,so this list works as a shopping list too before I purchase the models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 1000 points is hard for most of the covered Legions, let alone unreleased ones. I assume you'll be picking Furious Charge for your Legion rule? It seems the most appropriate. IMHO, a second HQ at 1000 is a bit of a waste. Maybe you could spend the points on gearing up your Tactical Marines with vexilla & close combat weapons and putting them in Rhinos to keep up with everything else... Apart from that, list looks pretty good to me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4075045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 1000 points is hard for most of the covered Legions, let alone unreleased ones. I assume you'll be picking Furious Charge for your Legion rule? It seems the most appropriate. IMHO, a second HQ at 1000 is a bit of a waste. Maybe you could spend the points on gearing up your Tactical Marines with vexilla & close combat weapons and putting them in Rhinos to keep up with everything else... Apart from that, list looks pretty good to me! well the list focus heavily on jetbikes,so i dont really want to beef up the tactical,while the primus medicae is for the FnP jetbike blob Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4076199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I would split up the Jetbike squads into 3s and get rid of the Primus Medicare. A death star unit isn't really going to work at such a low points game as it will attract all the firepower on the field. I would ignore the tacticals and to some respects the Sicaran to get rid of that unit. With smaller units you can hassle more targets at once make them bigger when you get to 2000 point games. If your set on Jetbikes good but I always thought outriders fit White Scars better. I prefer list one as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4079259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 I would split up the Jetbike squads into 3s and get rid of the Primus Medicare. A death star unit isn't really going to work at such a low points game as it will attract all the firepower on the field. I would ignore the tacticals and to some respects the Sicaran to get rid of that unit. With smaller units you can hassle more targets at once make them bigger when you get to 2000 point games. If your set on Jetbikes good but I always thought outriders fit White Scars better. I prefer list one as well. ok so is this one quite good? +++ 30k White Scars (1000pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (1000pts) ++ + HQ (125pts) + Legion Centurion (125pts) [Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Melta Bombs, Power Armour, Power Weapon, Refractor Field] + Troops (300pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (150pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] Legion Tactical Squad (150pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] + Fast Attack (575pts) + Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (215pts) [5x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (180pts) [4x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (180pts) [4x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Created with BattleScribe (http://www.battlescribe.net) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4080530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I also wouldnt run the Centurion without a Consul - doing so defeats the Purpose of running one: Having a flexible HQ Choice. If you want a Beatstick, pay a bit more get get a Preator or even a Champion. Making him a Forgelord might be a good option too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4080664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 I also wouldnt run the Centurion without a Consul - doing so defeats the Purpose of running one: Having a flexible HQ Choice. If you want a Beatstick, pay a bit more get get a Preator or even a Champion. Making him a Forgelord might be a good option too. ok so based on your post, I'm able to bring a Prator/Khan the list looks like dis: + Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (1000pts) ++ + HQ (195pts) + Legion Praetor (195pts) [Artificer Armour, Iron Halo, Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Paragon Blade] + Troops (300pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (150pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] Legion Tactical Squad (150pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] + Fast Attack (505pts) + Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (215pts) [5x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (145pts) [3x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (145pts) [3x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4083649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Looks fair for 1k Points. Though outside of your Preators Melta Bombs, whats your answer to Av11+? At best, your Volkit Culverins can do damage to up to Av12 due to S6 but beyond those, you have no real means. While its lame to say so, consider dropping the 5 man bike squad down to 3 and giving Squad-wide melta bombs to as many jetbikes squads as you can and maybe even your Tac Sarges too. At least this way you'll have an answer to a Contemptor Dreadnought running at you with Av13 or a Land Raider. Luckily Melta Bombs are relatively cheap and since each one costs +/- 5 Melta Bombs. Meaning you could give them to all your Jetbike Squads and 1 Tac Sarge. Just make sure to take care of your Preator, hes your only source of Ap2 at initiative with possible Instant Death! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4083659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Looks fair for 1k Points. Though outside of your Preators Melta Bombs, whats your answer to Av11+? At best, your Volkit Culverins can do damage to up to Av12 due to S6 but beyond those, you have no real means. While its lame to say so, consider dropping the 5 man bike squad down to 3 and giving Squad-wide melta bombs to as many jetbikes squads as you can and maybe even your Tac Sarges too. At least this way you'll have an answer to a Contemptor Dreadnought running at you with Av13 or a Land Raider. Luckily Melta Bombs are relatively cheap and since each one costs +/- 5 Melta Bombs. Meaning you could give them to all your Jetbike Squads and 1 Tac Sarge. Just make sure to take care of your Preator, hes your only source of Ap2 at initiative with possible Instant Death! aight,will definitely guard the praetor,cause playing jetbike Eldar taught me alot,so is this going to be the final list? ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (1000pts) ++ + HQ (195pts) + Legion Praetor (195pts) [Artificer Armour, Iron Halo, Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Paragon Blade] + Troops (300pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (150pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] Legion Tactical Squad (150pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] + Fast Attack (505pts) + Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (185pts) [Melta Bombs, 3x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] ····Sky Hunter Sergeant [Power Weapon] Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (160pts) [Melta Bombs, 3x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (160pts) [Melta Bombs, 3x Space Marine Sky Hunters, Volkite Culverin] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4083692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Looks fair to me, especially for 1k. Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4083720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Aight thanks! any ideas on what I should get if I want to expand to 1500? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4083915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 2 sicarans and rhino's for your troops... And just sprinkle the remaining points for upgrades over the list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4084052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 ^^^ pretty much that. Or maybe even a deredeo (unfluffy for White Scars unless Forgeworld say otherwise) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4084138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 oooh another input for a list! keep the tips going guys! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4086532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eye Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The jetbike provides a 2+ save, isn't it ? If so you can spare the arti armour. I'm going roughly for the same list as you (less bikes maybe), and to expand to 1500 I would exacly go the route of Slipstreams : Sicaran and rhinos. Maybe a Venator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4090982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Artificer armor comes standard on a preator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4091011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^^^ pretty much that. Or maybe even a deredeo (unfluffy for White Scars unless Forgeworld say otherwise) actually I think they can bring a dreadnought,cause the majority of the Terran member have different thoughts about being intered in a dread,so I think it's best to say that if there's a dreadnought,it's mostly Terran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4094553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^^^ pretty much that. Or maybe even a deredeo (unfluffy for White Scars unless Forgeworld say otherwise) actually I think they can bring a dreadnought,cause the majority of the Terran member have different thoughts about being intered in a dread,so I think it's best to say that if there's a dreadnought,it's mostly Terran Why, yes. If you do base your White Scars on Terrans rather than Chogorians, Dreadnoughts cease to truly be problematic to include. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4094555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^^^ pretty much that. Or maybe even a deredeo (unfluffy for White Scars unless Forgeworld say otherwise) actually I think they can bring a dreadnought,cause the majority of the Terran member have different thoughts about being intered in a dread,so I think it's best to say that if there's a dreadnought,it's mostly Terran Why, yes. If you do base your White Scars on Terrans rather than Chogorians, Dreadnoughts cease to truly be problematic to include. I'm going to base them around Chogorians,but hey! I could mix and match all I want! it's not like they hate each other Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308838-white-scars-1000/#findComment-4094556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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