rezin70 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What's your opinions on Librarian Dreads? I just got my first one and dont quite know how to best use him. I was thinking since he's a character to attach him to a DC squad or something. Not sure which spells I would use. Any advice. I really dont have much psyker experience. What are the most useful spells to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 You can't attach him to a unit. I have tried him 4 games with 7th codex, 3 of them in a Raven. I think he is great for the points, but i would keep him at the barebone 150. If i take him i'll usually include Dante and a Raven. Dante gives the flyer reserve re-rolls so turn 3 you go in to hover and assault. Turn 3 charge is not ideal, but it will be hard for opponent to avoid him. One of his greatest assets is being able to challenge units with really tough beatsticks, or killing MC's with force. If i'm facing a lot of AA i'll run him towards the board center preferably at an objective. It's not ideal, but thats why i keep him at base cost. Consider the extra armor upgrade for Raven (5points i think) so you can avoid stunned and locked velocity while in the air. The BA primaris is great for the Libby Dread, other spells are kinda hit and miss. The fear one can be nice. The main ones i use is primaris or force for MC's. The BA traits actually fit well with him, but he does usually die during a game and you want the Dante trait if you brought him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezin70 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 So i guess the rulebook says vehicle characters cant attach to units? Must have missed it :/I can see him being glanced to death before I get to use him, I play against Necrons and IG often. Thanks for the tips on the spells, He seems like if he gets in there and gets to fight, then he's gonna get some kills, but getting him into the fight seems to be the problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSauce Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I've had some good luck running him out of a raven with BA powers. I usually upgrade to ML2 and heavy flamer, to give him a little extra utility against hordes, but that's secondary to the MC-hunting role he usually takes. You can also run him up the field, either with BA powers (hoping for wings so that you can reposition other troops) or with Divination to pass around prescience and generally secure your back lines. Against necrons that probably won't work too well, though, since he'll get glanced to death easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 He can't join a unit because he's not an Independent Character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Raven is pretty much the best way to go. Find your opponents nastiest unit incapable of hurting AV13 (so S8 or less really) and go to town! Works great challenging units because you get to fight the challenge but only the challenged gets to fight you back (...I think?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bukimimaru Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Raven is pretty much the best way to go. Find your opponents nastiest unit incapable of hurting AV13 (so S8 or less really) and go to town! Works great challenging units because you get to fight the challenge but only the challenged gets to fight you back (...I think?) Or a drop pod, depending on the terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezin70 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Ah so he's a character, not an IC. I see now. I may run a razorback front of him as a moving wall, and pop him out when i need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Using the malefic daemonology list with the dread sounds hilarious, even though it is heretical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Raven is pretty much the best way to go. Find your opponents nastiest unit incapable of hurting AV13 (so S8 or less really) and go to town! Works great challenging units because you get to fight the challenge but only the challenged gets to fight you back (...I think?) It was like that in 6th, but in 7th, if only one model is in the combat, all other models can attack that one. So meph+squad in challenge with other squad - enemy squad have to prioritise attacks onto enemy rank and file, when they are all dead, their attacks can then go ontothe challenger. As the libby dread is a single model, all the enemy can always attack him, even in a challenge, unless you put another unit in with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I guess that's what the scouts in the Raven are for :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Aye, the good thing is you can usually challenge the hard hitter, while the others can't glance AV13. Just keep it away from TWC and Armorbane IC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Raul Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Primaris power is best and pray for a 5 or 6 on your roll! He is going to wreck MCs but sanguinary wings can help alieviate his lack of mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazcruzk Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've heard of people having better than expected luck running him as a warlord since the BA traits work well with him. I imagine you'd want a lot more close support for that route, but that impressive sob will be able to unleash a lot of hell combined with Sang powers. Quickening with i5/rampage/mc force halberd. Even the less punchy ones are OK for getting that support close and keeping it close. You lose out on taking advantage of vv, but that rule of cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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