The Grim Badger Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hi folks! This coming Monday, myself and a long term gaming buddy are going to dive into our first ever 30k game to see what all the fuss is about. That said, its a massive proxy game - we've both purchased some 30k goodies, but none of it even remotely tableworthy yet! We are both 40k veterans, so we have an excellent grasp of the core rule set, just not Heresy specific stuff. I've read that 30k really starts to show its flavour above 2k, so we went big and decided a 3000 point proxy game would work best, with lots of boots on the ground, and a Primarch each! What I'm wondering now is, does anyone have any tips that might make it a more enjoyable experience? Is there a certain mission you'd recommend? Anything at all, would be hugely beneficial at this point - if we both enjoy the battle, we will no doubt wax lyrical to our gaming group about it... could be the start of something big, so any pointers greatly appreciated :) Many thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hi folks! This coming Monday, myself and a long term gaming buddy are going to dive into our first ever 30k game to see what all the fuss is about. That said, its a massive proxy game - we've both purchased some 30k goodies, but none of it even remotely tableworthy yet! We are both 40k veterans, so we have an excellent grasp of the core rule set, just not Heresy specific stuff. I've read that 30k really starts to show its flavour above 2k, so we went big and decided a 3000 point proxy game would work best, with lots of boots on the ground, and a Primarch each! What I'm wondering now is, does anyone have any tips that might make it a more enjoyable experience? Is there a certain mission you'd recommend? Anything at all, would be hugely beneficial at this point - if we both enjoy the battle, we will no doubt wax lyrical to our gaming group about it... could be the start of something big, so any pointers greatly appreciated :) Many thanks! What forces will you be both playing? My advice. Go to around about 1850 to 2000 points. Dont shove in a primarch unless you really feel the need. And above all bring all the new 30k goodies you can. Volkites, attached apothecaries, rapier batteries, daredo dreadnoughts, sicarans, fire raptors/storm eagles, laser vindicators ect. Bring something new to the table. Play in a fluffy style but try to remember the following. We know fear We can be swept St6,7,8 are very common in the heresy Tanks are cheap and plentiful Always wipe front to back Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4082878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Bring drinks :P I recommend playing with at least 6 objectives and the random cards. It helps balance the game out so it's not just alpha strikefest. I'd recommend staying away from super heavies or Primarchs for the first game. See how it is before playing with all the big toys lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4083094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Badger Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'm playing Iron Hands, he's playing Sons of Horus :) Tried to squeeze stuff into my list that I don't usual run, 20 man tac blob, apothecary, 10 man heavy weapons, 3x predators in a squadron, Spartan assault tank, gorgon termies Blah blah! Should be a blast, one of the reasons we aimed so high point wise was because for both of us the primarchs on the table are a really big draw :) could even be the main reason for trying 30k! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4083432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I'm playing Iron Hands, he's playing Sons of Horus :) Tried to squeeze stuff into my list that I don't usual run, 20 man tac blob, apothecary, 10 man heavy weapons, 3x predators in a squadron, Spartan assault tank, gorgon termies Blah blah! Should be a blast, one of the reasons we aimed so high point wise was because for both of us the primarchs on the table are a really big draw :) could even be the main reason for trying 30k! With all that and ferrus you will be bloody hard to take down. Good choices. Enjoy And welcome to the age of darkness. You will be hooked now and never return to the bleak 41st millenium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4083847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I'd recommend never playing maelstrom out of the book as it quickly becomes who got the better cards and just compounds from there; modified I've heard is pretty decent Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4085266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yeah, a modified maelstrom version is a bit better than the book imho. Why not go for everything at the same time? Killpoints, holding objectivs at the end and maelstrom? That should even it out a bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4085468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Imo pure objectives is the best, it really forces you to play tactically beyond rampaging up the board and lucking out on the maelstrom cards. On top of this, I'd recommend playing it 30k style as its inevitably closer at the end. If you have the chance, they did just release new missions in tempest that are pretty interesting. They change things up nicely Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4086605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Badger Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Cheers for the input guys! Ive never been a huge fan of the maelstrom cards, unless of course you really are just playing an all out friendly. We will probably stick to one of the mutli objective missions from the main rulebook. On top of this, I'd recommend playing it 30k style as its inevitably closer at the end. If you have the chance, they did just release new missions in tempest that are pretty interesting. They change things up nicely In specific, what do you mean when you say play it 30k style? Sadly I dont have access to the Tempest book right now, but maybe one day! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4087348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sircyn Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Tempest has the updated age of darkness rules and generic heresy era scenario generator. It's a must have for clarifying how aod games work in the current edition of 40k. For instance maelstrom is not recommended, but stronghold assault is! and the scoring system is confirmed as different to 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4087444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Tempest has the updated age of darkness rules and generic heresy era scenario generator. It's a must have for clarifying how aod games work in the current edition of 40k. For instance maelstrom is not recommended, but stronghold assault is! and the scoring system is confirmed as different to 40k. Yeah this. I just had to have this convo with my group, HH is not 7th edition its far closer to 6th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4087459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Cheers for the input guys! Ive never been a huge fan of the maelstrom cards, unless of course you really are just playing an all out friendly. We will probably stick to one of the mutli objective missions from the main rulebook. On top of this, I'd recommend playing it 30k style as its inevitably closer at the end. If you have the chance, they did just release new missions in tempest that are pretty interesting. They change things up nicely In specific, what do you mean when you say play it 30k style? Sadly I dont have access to the Tempest book right now, but maybe one day! Some people choose to play objectives 7th ed; everything scores with troops and Implacable Advance giving objective secure (troops giving it to their transports too). Conquest (i didn't check out tempest too closely to see if they changed it) clarifies that they only want Troops and Implacable advance to be able to score at all; everything else denies. Its pretty important to know which people play with as it drastically changes what units are useful in terms of list building as well as target priority in game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309159-first-game-of-30k-tips-to-make-it-a-great-game/#findComment-4089158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.