helterskelter Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I could. It's your money you can do with it as you please. I know us on the heresy train don't "know no fear" but we should be fearless with our conversions to make even more epic models :D that Alexis sigismund could be used to make a stair well duel with Sevatar. Of which I need 2 more. (Need to convert one to ride a space plane :p) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Are his legs too short? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 With shipping, that's $80 in the US. Outrageous. Good God. $80 for that turd of a sculpt is brutal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 With shipping, that's $80 in the US. Outrageous. Good God. $80 for that turd of a sculpt is brutal. Let us hope Ventanus is better :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 With shipping, that's $80 in the US. Outrageous. Good God. $80 for that turd of a sculpt is brutal. Let us hope Ventanus is better Amen, brother. If Ventanus looks anything like his artwork, both from the past and present, then he's getting the VII Legion treatment from me. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 With shipping, that's $80 in the US. Outrageous. Good God. $80 for that turd of a sculpt is brutal. Let us hope Ventanus is better Amen, brother. If Ventanus looks anything like his artwork, both from the past and present, then he's getting the VII Legion treatment from me. ............... Tho i understand why you would do that. His face is male model worthy. His armor is so unique. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I think he looks fantastic, although I totally agree he needs a helmet. That's easy fixed though. As for price? Yeah it's steep. I'm in Australia so it's bad but our brothers and sisters in New Zealand have it even worse so I won't complain (much). The character series has been worth the cost though. These are exceptional miniatures! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4084668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Ok, I'll say it: I hate the model, I think it's horrible! The reason I hate the model so much has to do with the obviously totally wrong proportions. The torso is waaaay to long and the legs are unnaturally positioned. The head is also questionable, especially because he's bald (unlike the fluff) and he has laurels... Really? Laurels? I mean having them sculpted on a helmet is fine but how to they remain in place on his head during battle? Does he staple them on? Also the tabard is awful... It is too short and looks totally unnatural. It also attempts to cover the proportion mistakes and instead it accentuates them. It all looks so wrong. Truth being said I'm not a fan of Pullox either - I think the legs are problematic. But he's nowhere as bad as Sigismund. It was a missed opportunity and a pity to have the Emperor's Champion with that bad a model. I'm not even going to the price... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yeah, the more I look at it, the less I like it. Even it if were amazing, I'd say it would hardly be worth the price. As it is... Also, the Raptor Imperialis on his leg looks awful. >_> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Were money no object, this is what I'd go for: Looks neat, but isn't Polux much larger than a normal marine? Fluffwise - yes. Actualy model wise? Not by that much. Doesnt help that the way hes standing makes it a bit hard to conclude. While this is a baller kitbash, Sigismunds arms, shoulder, torso and lets are all one piece. I dont think I'd be able to cut up that much Expensive Resin @_@ You've seen my Autek Mor, I'll give it a bash soon. Just with an IH symbol on his shoulder instead. Because Meduson. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Detail is fine, the head looks like it was put in the oven for to long and I don't like the pose. Sigismund has always been described as the Crusader, the one charging into combat with his sword in both hands screaming bloody murder. This pose would be fine for a more technically skilled character like Lucius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Detail is fine, the head looks like it was put in the oven for to long and I don't like the pose. Sigismund has always been described as the Crusader, the one charging into combat with his sword in both hands screaming bloody murder. This pose would be fine for a more technically skilled character like Lucius. I don't think that view of Ol' Siggy is all that fair. While he was very much the Hot Headed Commander, he was also One of - if not THE - best fighters among the Legions. To insinuate (if you were at all, could be wrong) that he earned that reputation/position/rank through Zeal and Rushing headlong into combat would be a disservice. He is very much the skilled and technically Proficient Swordsman - just not one that focused on Form and Figure like Lucius and those of the EC vs Killing you dead as efficiently and effortlessly as possible. His rules reflect as much. Tl;dr : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Lucius toys with his prey, like a cat with a mouse. Sigismund will just kill you and move on to the next target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Well I think shaw2039 has done it justice; http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsiuoqa7at.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 That is a brave man. I thought that maybe if the legs were cut up and straightened out, it would make the length of the torso look better, but it doesn't. Not much, anyway. It's better, but... still not fantastic by any stretch of my imagination. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Well ill be doing 2 versions when I order both one as the static fw pose in IF and the second with a helm like shaw has done Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I think it's time for a "convert your Sigismund" thread to pop-up! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I think I might still get siggy see what can be done but hey the fine cast of the emperors champion model seems like a pretty sweet insurance policy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 His arms and legs look soo skinny :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 His arms and legs look soo skinny There are some issues for sure, I dont think the MKII legs help, if I remember my MKII guys, the legs seemed real thin, but the tabard looks like its messing up my perception of the proportions a bit. Its a shame, there are several bits I like, but there are several issues. :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4086961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezeriel Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Personally I think either the Legion Champion or the IF Command set make better sigismund models then the official one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4087099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 WHat is with the Legion Champion's legs by the way? Why the hell is it one half bulky MkIII and other half skinny-ass MkIV? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4087155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Personally I think either the Legion Champion or the IF Command set make better sigismund models then the official one. I'm thinking swapping the limp-wristed sword arm from the IF commander for the new Sigismund's arms is the best way to make the most from each kit, maybe going so far as to use the way shaw3029 reposed the arms. I was actually really on board with this Sigismund when I first saw the model but the more I look at it the more it just feels off. The upside is we're bound to see a range of stunning conversions that all find unique solutions WHat is with the Legion Champion's legs by the way? Why the hell is it one half bulky MkIII and other half skinny-ass MkIV? Yeah, he's got MkIII-style additional plating mounted over his MkIV (like how regular MkIII is basically mounted over MkII). I've been interpreting it to be extra armour added to his own dueling preference. Maybe his style leaves him slightly open on the left side or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4087162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Yeah I think he has more armour on the side that would be towards the enemy when he's duelling, that's how I've always seen it anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4087239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Yeah I think he has more armour on the side that would be towards the enemy when he's duelling, that's how I've always seen it anyway. Way off topic but have you recieved your praetor upgrade yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309191-sigismund/page/2/#findComment-4087246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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