vanimal Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Hi Just a quick question, Ashen circle axe rakes state they -1to an enemy's fall back distance after combat? Does that mean A: the unit is at minus one to their sweeping advance role and can be caught easier which seems cool. Or B: it's minus one to how far they run after the sweeping advance which seems rubbish? Cheers Vanimal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309558-ashen-circle-axe-rakes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Fall back distance... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309558-ashen-circle-axe-rakes/#findComment-4092167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Mortis Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Aye, but surely if your opponent rolls a 1, 1 - 1 = 0. Therefore they don't Fall Back, ergo are caught and Swept? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309558-ashen-circle-axe-rakes/#findComment-4093427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 That was my understanding. It reduces their fall back when sweeping - it's suposed to mesh well with the cut them down rule. But it can be interpreted as after the sweeping advance move. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309558-ashen-circle-axe-rakes/#findComment-4093862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanimal Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Hi all I contacted forgeworld imperial armour team. It is only for fall back distance and not sweeping advance.Not sure what the point is of that rule though? Vanimal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309558-ashen-circle-axe-rakes/#findComment-4101524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazuzu Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I guess it makes it easier to charge in subsequent turns but not nearly as good as if it was that initial sweeping advance roll. And then there is the fact that the Ashen Circle are in hardened armour and so already have -1" tp their Sweeping Advance... That exactly cancels the effect of the Axe Rake if I understand things properly... {edit} no it doesn't cancel the effect... This is how I understand things: Ashen Circle wins combat, enemy fails Morale test. Both roll 1D6 + Initiative but Ashen Circle both: Reroll "1" Subtract 1 from the total result for the Hardened Armour 3. If the enemies total is greater, they Fall Back 2D6" but -1" for the Rake Not very useful at all... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309558-ashen-circle-axe-rakes/#findComment-4101671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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