Kilawatt Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 So something I've noticed with the majority of lists is that the wolf lord seems to always be a Thunder lord with kbs and stormshield with little to no variation. Now I won't lie. Seeing thunderwolves was what got me into space wolves to begin with. They are amazing units no doubt. But I also like jump pack units too. One could argue that blood angels do this better, but there's a flavor to space wolves that appeals to me a lot more so I've tried something a little different. A wolf lord kitted out with a jump pack, fellclaw's teeth and morkai's claws attached to a retinue of 5 wolf guard with jump packs and 2 powerfists is killer. A little on the glass cannon side, but taking advantage of cover by being a smaller unit and picking your targets more than makes up for the death that follows when these guys get into and disrupt the enemy backline. Many times have I used this unit to pounce on an infiltrated scout squad, only to consolidate into cover and jump straight into combat with the enemy dev squad. Without proper support these guys easily destroy entire units on the charge with a potential 8 ap3 rerolls to hit and wound attacks on the charge plus 12 regular ws5 attacks and 6 ws5 powerfist attacks. I particularly enjoy the fact that it's a fairly unique unit in a space wolves list. Not to mention I have a completely badass lord executioner converted model for my wolf lord. So what about you guys? Have you tried a unique load out that actually kicks ass? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewkers Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Not quite as unique as yours but my standard Lord is runic armour, KBS and SS. As I don't like the aesthetics of thunderwolves and prefer all my units to be pod'ed in. this particular loadout bested memphiston 1 on 1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4096021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Wolf Lords??!! I got plenty of them!! Hel Ves, the Heartbreaker atop Blue Suede - Thunderwolf mount, Runic Armor, Power Fist, Wolf Claw -Blue Suede still WiP- http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac194/Khyron666/40k%20092.jpg Greyorg 'the Lopper' - TDA, Krackenbone Sword, Storm Shield -IMG still WiP- http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac194/Khyron666/iPhone%20133.jpg Eldgrimr Daemonsbane - TDA, Frost Fury, Frost Sword Wolf Lord #4 - TDA, Morkai's Claws Wolf Lord #5 - Armor of Russ, Fangsword of the Frosty Wolf Storm Ice Fury, Storm Shield Go one the assumption that each lord wears Fellclaws Teeth as long as they are the only lord in my army. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4096201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I highly Prefer the Codex Combo of Armor of Russ for the -I5 and the Fangsword with AP3, Hellfrost and Rending and a SS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4096212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr_maddog Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I like Donkalleone's on a bike, escorted with WG Bikers from a different CotGW detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4096500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Wolf Lords??!! I got plenty of them!! Hel Ves, the Heartbreaker atop Blue Suede - Thunderwolf mount, Runic Armor, Power Fist, Wolf Claw -Blue Suede still WiP- http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac194/Khyron666/40k%20092.jpg THAT'S FREAKY! My Wolf Lord is the exact same load out (WC/PF) with... the exact same head! Or he was, until yesterday when I popped it off in favour of the bare head from the new upgrade sprue. Now that wouldn't be all that weird except if I remember right, that isn't even a SW (or even a 40k) head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4096718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilawatt Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Definitely cool to see some different ideas here. How do you guys utilize your different load outs in games? Here is the picture of my Wolf Lord http://imgur.com/pFkVB55 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yes I Love my jump pack wolf lord!!! I run him with the Wolf claw relic, it is nasty. More importantly Jump pack lord just got a massive buff! The annihilation force. Take the "Annihilation Force Formation" and attach a wolf lord. Boom he is in on the opponents table side turn 1, assaulting turn 1. Bring on the Shenanigans!!!!! Here he is with some swift claws. He is called old three claw, one of his claws was ripped off in the eye of a winged hive tyrant... http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/jay_Spazmonkey/IMG_4355.jpg http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297293-started-my-space-wolves-home-battle-table/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Wolf Lords??!! I got plenty of them!! Hel Ves, the Heartbreaker atop Blue Suede - Thunderwolf mount, Runic Armor, Power Fist, Wolf Claw -Blue Suede still WiP- http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac194/Khyron666/40k%20092.jpg THAT'S FREAKY! My Wolf Lord is the exact same load out (WC/PF) with... the exact same head! Or he was, until yesterday when I popped it off in favour of the bare head from the new upgrade sprue. Now that wouldn't be all that weird except if I remember right, that isn't even a SW (or even a 40k) head. Brother Bladewolf also has this guy with this head!! It's from the TWC kit, actually!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I fall into the "typical" wolf lord loadout section as I have always run him on a thunderwolf. However I do like the idea of giving him a jump pack. And that lord executioner revamp looks awesome Kilawatt!!! I have a game tonight actually and may give a jump pack a crack with a wolf guard .... guard. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yes I Love my jump pack wolf lord!!! I run him with the Wolf claw relic, it is nasty. More importantly Jump pack lord just got a massive buff! The annihilation force. Take the "Annihilation Force Formation" and attach a wolf lord. Boom he is in on the opponents table side turn 1, assaulting turn 1. Bring on the Shenanigans!!!!! Here he is with some swift claws. He is called old three claw, one of his claws was ripped off in the eye of a winged hive tyrant... Slightly off-topic, but I don't get how you can attach an IC to a formation, when by doing so you violate the basic premise that no model outside of the formation can gain the benefits of the formation. I've seen several people mention doing similar things (attaching Arjac to Void Claws, et al), but I don't think this is legal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It is legal because it doesnt violate the Formation itself and nowhere its stated that we arent allowed to attach IC to a Formation. Simply speaking its not specific disallowed so its allowed and this line in BRB sets nail in the coffin "While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes, though he still follows the rules for characters." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309514-skyhammer-annihilation-force-and-non-formation-models/page-2?hl=%2Bannihilation+%2Battach&do=findComment&comment=4093627 That's a thread sample of people discussing this over and over again, it's not clear-cut at all, and there are several more threads raging about it (In the B&C and everywhere else). Till there's a FAQ, this is something you'll have to agree with with your opponents or TO organizers. Trying to stop a flame-war before it starts :) Back on topic, I like my lord on wolf with claw, shield and fellclaw's teeth, giving him rending and rerolls to hit and to wound. Decent against termies thanks to rending and shred, quite brutal against anything else. When I roll with 2 mounted ICs (lord and pack leader, or 2 lords) then one of them does get the kraken sword, although he usually kills less than mr reroll. AP2 is usually wasted against most targets (I play a lot against nids). But it's a blessing when you do have the proper target to throw him against. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 - off topic ... I thought the formation was limited to models that are of the same chapter tactics? As are most of the formations in there? -on topic ... I ran my wolf lord early days as a foot slogger in the armour of Russ with some termies to keep him safe. Not as mobile but still took 3 turns for the enemy to be able to whittle it down to just my lord :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thanks for the replies, and sorry for the derail... Back on topic: when I take the KBS, I usually take digital weapons, and don't bother with felclaw's tooth, as KBS already has masterwork. When I want a real threshing machine, I will put felclaws tooth on a WL/WGBL wielding Morkai's Claws. Put him in a squad of BCs and watch as they melt units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4097510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Off topic - I am no aware of a rule that forbids you to add an IC to a unit in a formation. You have taken the units the formation requires. At that point you are simply attaching an allied IC to the unit. Is there anything that forbids this that anyone is aware of? On topic - I love the WC / WC jump pack lord for pure style, but i can see the obvious advantage of taking the PF / WC as tactically it makes more sense. But I will almost always take the relic claws for the bonuses they give anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4098487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Off topic - I am no aware of a rule that forbids you to add an IC to a unit in a formation. You have taken the units the formation requires. At that point you are simply attaching an allied IC to the unit. Is there anything that forbids this that anyone is aware of? Since I started that derail...the issue isn't joining the IC to the formation, it is giving the IC any benefits received by that formation. E.g.: Void Claws come down turn one, because they gained a rule that changes when they get deployed via deep strike. Adding an IC to that unit is questionable, since that IC normally cannot come down until turn two, when reserve rolls are made. Allowing that IC to come in with the void claws gives that IC a rule not normally granted, and thus that IC cannot join that formation. Others disagree. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4098521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yeah I can see that. I guess it comes down to your local Meta and what people allow. We allow it in our meta, so as long as everyone gets the benefit I guess its all good. I also dropped an email to GW to see what their thoughts are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4098558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Brothers, and maybe sisters, what it this Kraken Bone Sword? Now having read about it, I must possess one, er, for my Space Wolves, of course. I'm quite happy with my Ministorum Sanctioned Eviscerator, at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4098613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Brothers, and maybe sisters, what it this Kraken Bone Sword? Now having read about it, I must possess one, er, for my Space Wolves, of course. I'm quite happy with my Ministorum Sanctioned Eviscerator, at the moment. It's in the Champions of Fenris supplement Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4098683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr_maddog Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'm sure some will argue against this set up, but thought I'd bring it up: Codex WL or WGBL, Armor of Russ, Fangsword, and Black Death adding its bonus attacks to the Fangsword (or for the AP 2 when needed). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4098762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I have 3 Wolf lords I run, depending on what makes up the bulk of my force. I have a runic armor with JP, and Morkai's claws and fellclaw's teeth, I also have my terminator lord with axe (KBS) and frostfury, and one that is the codex lord. Armor of russ, black death and BP. Those are my three wolf lords (for fluff purposes they are all the same dude, but three different models and three different loadouts, sometimes I use the others as WGBL, but not often). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309748-wolf-lord-but-not-as-you-know-him/#findComment-4099803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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