Interrogator Stobz Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I don't care about power level; if I want to play with my Deathwing toys, I will play with my Deathwing toys. I play RAW as often as I can so the Formation and Detachment are a bit problematic, but that's what Unbound is for. My group can take it or leave it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310180-deathwing-demoted-to-sideshow/page/2/#findComment-4105849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm not too "sad panda" about the changes to deathwing... You can't run them pure unless unbound, they lost obsec, lost first turn deepstrike, and a CAD is the only way to field battleforged mechanized deathwing, but I think knights got better, not worse (I don't run into chaos marines that often...AP3 against all comers, plus fleshbane on the master is nice, and I tend to whiff on my one turn of smite mode), Belial is a challenge monkey now (+1A and rerolls), they got slightly cheaper (slightly more expensive if you go TH/SS crazy), they get to shoot and still run on deepstrike, and with the knights getting changed, I see no reason to field a TDAIC in this edition, making room for a libby in TDA, and I think interromancy works very well with DW...rage is nice, mind worm on a trygon before you charge it is always nice, aversion keeps the enemy grav cannons from wrecking your face, and mind wipe on a charge target really helps make sure you don't lose any models while seeing off an enemy that would normally expect to whittle you down a bit as it died. I'm puzzled that RW, the clear winner of the last codex sweepstakes, got even more candy while DW got nerfed some more, but I think they're playable, especially in combination with RW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310180-deathwing-demoted-to-sideshow/page/2/#findComment-4105854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Yup, in combo with RW they will be great! It's just pure DW that will still require finesse at list building and on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310180-deathwing-demoted-to-sideshow/page/2/#findComment-4105873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
palin2222 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 Why give us the option to buy a dedicated transport for the unit if we are not allowed to even put them on the field? If They would FAQ's the rule to say any unit who purchased a Landraider my be deployed as normal inside the landraider I would say we would be sitting pretty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310180-deathwing-demoted-to-sideshow/page/2/#findComment-4106113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Why give us the option to buy a dedicated transport for the unit if we are not allowed to even put them on the field? If They would FAQ's the rule to say any unit who purchased a Landraider my be deployed as normal inside the landraider I would say we would be sitting pretty. For now you can house rule it or ask the Tourney organizer. It was already said one Tourney is allowing an HQ with a bike to have the Ravewnwing special rule. So ask. Yes I know it's not much, and "we shouldn't have to fix GW mistakes" but it is what it is. Let's make the best of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310180-deathwing-demoted-to-sideshow/page/2/#findComment-4106238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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