XIXth legion test model.

[GrandMagnus]

Hi, so here is my test model for the XIXth legion. Now before the fluff fanatics go berserk this is my own company of raven guard during the heresy and they have a fluffy reason for looking the way they do. I just want some feedback (good or bad) about the scheme:

 

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Philip_Breusch_Magnussen/2015-06-29%2016.51.26_zpsm9sdy8q2.jpg

 

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Philip_Breusch_Magnussen/2015-06-29%2016.51.03_zpsij4t1ivn.jpg

 

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Philip_Breusch_Magnussen/2015-06-292016.51.18_zpsnqjlirbl.jpg

 

The paintjob is not perfect, its mostly drybrush and washes because I did it a bit fast over a black undercoat and quite rushed (about and hour and a half). So most likely the next time I will be basecoated with white so I can do a better job and get a much smoother bone. Battle damage is also something Im interested in adding. The desings on his pauldron and kneepads are ideas I was testing out for tribal markings or something similar, so far I prefer the one I did on the knee, I like the flowing pattern.

 

And sorry for the terrible picture quality.

[MindOfMetal]

I like it, though I would have done the black knee and lower leg on the right too (that's more personal preference than anything).

 

Interested to find out the fluff based reasons for it.

[GrandMagnus]

I like it, though I would have done the black knee and lower leg on the right too (that's more personal preference than anything).

 

Interested to find out the fluff based reasons for it.

Thank you!

 

The main reason I did this was because I wanted a bit of variation so I decided that all bits with studs should be painted black. It also helps that painting black studs is easier than bone studs :P I will some basic fluff up later today, just a point to point description rather than story.

[StruManChu]

I really like this. Eye catching and individual, but still identifiable as Raven Guard. As MoM said, I'd change the legs so they're both black, and maybe only use the tribal patterns on the black sections so they're subtle. Save the overt ones for characters/sergeants etc.

[ROBOcaster]

I would really like to see that Knee tribal pattern over more of the armor its very cool, and unique. I like what you are doing here, it that kind of uniqueness that were I given just a picture I could Identify the artist and say, "Oh thats, GrandMagnus's Raven Guard"

[GrandMagnus]

I will take notes on that. As I mentioned, the idea of the black leg is not supposed to be a firm part of the companies heraldry, rather a personal touch added by each individual marine to add a bit of variation to the squads. Although Im still not entirely conviced. Perhabs using tribal markings rather than pure black armour could be a suitable substitute.

 

One important detail about the company is that they have been away from the legion ever since it was reunited with their primarch, Im working out why, and they have been engaged in the outer edges of the empire where new equipment and reinforcements are scarce, having close to no contact to their legion so slowly over time their organisation and heraldry has changed from the original XIXth legion colours while still retaining the legion symbol of the raven. 

 

EDIT: Robo, the tribal pattern will definetly be spread out across the armour, not just on knee pads. Uniqueness is what Im going for ;)

[AlphariusOmegon108]

My oh my.. Could you maybe give us a run down of what colors you used? This is amazing!

[Slips]

I would actually avoid painting both legs black since they might start resembling the Taurans in 40k at that point.

[GrandMagnus]

My oh my.. Could you maybe give us a run down of what colors you used? This is amazing!

 

Thank you! Sure, it was something like this:

 

Armour:

 

1. Primer with black paint.

2. Basecoat of Steel Legion Drab.

3. Layer of Zandri Dust.

4. Wash all over (I might recommend doing only the recesses though) with Agrax Earthshade.

5. Do a light drybrush with a mix of Zandri Dust and ushabti bone, aprox. 1:1. Do a couple of these, I did a total of 3 to achieve that colour.

6. And add a final edge highlight of pure ushabti bone.

 

Black:

 

Just you basic basecoat of 2:1 black and admin. grey, followed by edge highlight of pure admin. grey and a wash or 2 of watered down black.

 

I would actually avoid painting both legs black since they might start resembling the Taurans in 40k at that point.

 

My thought exactly, which is why I would paint diferent individual pieces in black. One marine might have the lower left leg, the other have a gauntlet or both kneepads, etc. Basically all the areas with big rivets would be black.

[Fire Golem]

I really really like this. I agree with Slips, leave it with just one leg black, purely because I like the asymmetry of it.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Hi, so here is my test model for the XIXth legion. Now before the fluff fanatics go berserk this is my own company of raven guard during the heresy and they have a fluffy reason for looking the way they do.

 

Why should anyone go berserk? This is the Great Crusade/Heresy Era and alt paint schemes are one of the things the mods in the AoD have preaching about in the Legion For You thread, and I'm glad to see someone taking the plunge on that. I think the scheme looks great, but if you plan on doing an entire force like this, I'd strongly suggest picking up some RG decals to make your life a little easier.

[jimbo13]

This is absolutely beautiful dude!!! Don't change a thing!!!!! It might be cool if you add more of the Polynesian design on the model.

[Slips]

I'd also be very curious how your scheme would do with the RG Legion Upgrade Set (Moulded Shoulders, yo!)

[Daemon2027]

Pale nomads for the win.

[SkimaskMohawk]

Love the paint scheme, hate the polynesian designs in general on RG (despite how well painted yours are)

[Gab]

Love it, don't change a thing can't wait to see more. Been considering doing similar with my IF, just for something different. Even Ultramarines would be good following a similar idea but blue instead of the black.

 

Love the technique too, looks battle worn and gritty, perfect for 30k.

[GrandMagnus]

Wow, great to see so much support!

Hi, so here is my test model for the XIXth legion. Now before the fluff fanatics go berserk this is my own company of raven guard during the heresy and they have a fluffy reason for looking the way they do.

Why should anyone go berserk? This is the Great Crusade/Heresy Era and alt paint schemes are one of the things the mods in the AoD have preaching about in the Legion For You thread, and I'm glad to see someone taking the plunge on that. I think the scheme looks great, but if you plan on doing an entire force like this, I'd strongly suggest picking up some RG decals to make your life a little easier.

Well I know some people who are set in their ways. The legion badge was not that dificult or time consuming, it took about 10 minutes and thats because I had to follow a tutorial*. Im terrible at using decals so I would rather buy some of those wonderfully sculpted pauldrons.

*Tutorial, in case anybody is interested: http://www.denofimagination.com/2014/02/tutorial-raven-freehand.html

This is absolutely beautiful dude!!! Don't change a thing!!!!! It might be cool if you add more of the Polynesian design on the model.

More polynesian designs to come!

I'd also be very curious how your scheme would do with the RG Legion Upgrade Set (Moulded Shoulders, yo!)

I will definetly be getting some of those RG moulded shoulders, MK II in particular. I want them to have a lot of older marks with MK IV and VI reserved for veterans and officers, or scattered about the squads.

Pale nomads for the win.

Love that name for the pre-primarch legion, I was thinking about naming the company "Dust Walkers".

So keep your eyes open, I will be starting a thread soon. Watch out, for the sons of Terra are coming. Ere' be ravens.

[DuskRaider]

I really like it, actually. I'd say perhaps have the Sergeants / Independent Characters in the traditional black, but perhaps instead of just straight black, give them the Maori patterns all about their armour. It would definitely give them a distinct Raven Guard feel to mesh them with the Legion at large, but with the tribal pattern allow them to stand out from rank and file from other Legions and also give it a quasi-Artificer feel. Thumbs up!

[Aqui]

Hi, so here is my test model for the XIXth legion. Now before the fluff fanatics go berserk this is my own company of raven guard during the heresy and they have a fluffy reason for looking the way they do.

Why should anyone go berserk? This is the Great Crusade/Heresy Era and alt paint schemes are one of the things the mods in the AoD have preaching about in the Legion For You thread, and I'm glad to see someone taking the plunge on that. I think the scheme looks great, but if you plan on doing an entire force like this, I'd strongly suggest picking up some RG decals to make your life a little easier.

If some of the official Ultramarine successors can end up with green armour (Inceptors), then your army and fluff definitely has a green light! As others have said - open day on ideas in 30K

[GrandMagnus]

I really like it, actually. I'd say perhaps have the Sergeants / Independent Characters in the traditional black, but perhaps instead of just straight black, give them the Maori patterns all about their armour. It would definitely give them a distinct Raven Guard feel to mesh them with the Legion at large, but with the tribal pattern allow them to stand out from rank and file from other Legions and also give it a quasi-Artificer feel. Thumbs up!

Hmm, so you are saying the regular troops in white/bone and officers in white/bone with polynesian art in black? That... is brilliant. I was thinking about just coloured helmets and such markings, but that is better. Perhabs on officers of higher rank than sergeant, such as the Lord Commander and captains.

[Marshal Rohr]

Alt scheme RG!? This is too cool.

[Slips]

Dont forget you can always use the RG markings page in Extermination as added inspiration!

[DuskRaider]

Well I was suggesting doing the Officers & Commanders, etc. in black armour as is normal Legionnaire for Raven Guard, but have the armour covered in the tribal artwork so it's not really just jet black armour. It would tie them to the Legion at large with the base color, tie them to your company with the tribal, and make the armour look more personalized... like tribe specific or whatnot. Perhaps use different coloring for the tribal patterns to denote their rank or poisition, ie. blue for Librarian, perhaps red for Apothecary (as white seems to be the norm), gold or some such for Praetor. You've got an awesome base idea with these guys that you could definitely explore.

[Nakuth]

Well I was suggesting doing the Officers & Commanders, etc. in black armour as is normal Legionnaire for Raven Guard, but have the armour covered in the tribal artwork so it's not really just jet black armour. It would tie them to the Legion at large with the base color, tie them to your company with the tribal, and make the armour look more personalized... like tribe specific or whatnot. Perhaps use different coloring for the tribal patterns to denote their rank or poisition, ie. blue for Librarian, perhaps red for Apothecary (as white seems to be the norm), gold or some such for Praetor. You've got an awesome base idea with these guys that you could definitely explore.

 

I like this idea, but just to throw another suggestion in: The amount, style, and complexity of the markings could also indicate just how experienced the Astartes in question is. For example: A veteran officer, fought in the unification wars, etc, seen just about everything the Galaxy has to throw at him, would have more complex markings than, say, a newly promoted sergeant (in theory), who has only been serving for a couple of decades. The markings should tell a story as well as mark that particular Astartes as an officer, veteran, etc.

 

This could mean that some of the more senior officers would have some similar markings, but also more variation, as they may choose to place the markings on different parts of their armour, emphasise some markings over others, etc, or some veterans may have missed a certain engagement/campaign, but fought in others.

[DuskRaider]

Oooh, I like that idea.