Nano Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 With smoke launchers you can go for nightfighting and have a 4+/5+ cover save on your dreadnoughts for a turn. OR have move through cover and reroll charge against vehicles. Smoke launchers sound better, but magna grapple affects the whole game, rather than just one turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Aegis Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Move through cover has been a huge good change for me, smoke launchers are almost never better then getting even a pot shot off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4110568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Magna grapples are also really useful if you are flying in via Stormraven as it allow the Dreadnought to bail out at altitude without risking a Dangerous Terrain test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4110749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4110814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Â Cassor the Damned can not buy wargear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4110906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Magna grapples are also really useful if you are flying in via Stormraven as it allow the Dreadnought to bail out at altitude without risking a Dangerous Terrain test. I now have the mental image of it swinging down the Stormraven a la Spider-man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4110939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Â Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Â Cassor the Damned can not buy wargear? Â Â Nope, he is an individual datasheet and has no options. Â Â Â Magna grapples are also really useful if you are flying in via Stormraven as it allow the Dreadnought to bail out at altitude without risking a Dangerous Terrain test. I now have the mental image of it swinging down the Stormraven a la Spider-man. Â Â And making witty remarks through the vox speakers as he administers the Emperor's Wrath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine_Blood Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Â Â Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Â Cassor the Damned can not buy wargear? Â Â Nope, he is an individual datasheet and has no options. Â Â Â Magna grapples are also really useful if you are flying in via Stormraven as it allow the Dreadnought to bail out at altitude without risking a Dangerous Terrain test. I now have the mental image of it swinging down the Stormraven a la Spider-man. Â Â And making witty remarks through the vox speakers as he administers the Emperor's Wrath. Â "Oh no, lasguns! My one and only weakness!!!!" *Fries heretic with Frag cannon* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 I'll put Magna Grapples on my dreadnoughts then :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Â Â Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Â Cassor the Damned can not buy wargear? Â Â Nope, he is an individual datasheet and has no options. Â Â I completely misunderstood the post I quoted, apologies. I thought it meant something along the lines of 'Give Cassor a meltagun' but it's actually a warning that you might miss not having it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That was my bad, i meant DC dread not Cassor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Mystery solved. :lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Cassor the Damned can not buy wargear? Nope, he is an individual datasheet and has no options. I completely misunderstood the post I quoted, apologies. I thought it meant something along the lines of 'Give Cassor a meltagun' but it's actually a warning that you might miss not having it But Cassor already has a meltagun...I'm so confused! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 But Cassor already has a meltagun...I'm so confused! The point isn't the meltagun, the point is that Cassor comes with a magna-grapple and no option for smoke launchers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 But Cassor already has a meltagun...I'm so confused! The point isn't the meltagun, the point is that Cassor comes with a magna-grapple and no option for smoke launchers. We know that. Read the comment that I was replying to... he comes stock with talons, melta, magna and storm bolter. No wiggle room, no options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Ran a game with a DC dread and 2 Furiso, the move through cover is quite amazing, the most useful thing from my experience was not getting -2 charging in terrain. Rolling 3d6 when moving is also really sweet. If podding Cassor i think smoke launchers might be better depending on how bad you need the melta shot.. Cassor the Damned can not buy wargear? Nope, he is an individual datasheet and has no options. I completely misunderstood the post I quoted, apologies. I thought it meant something along the lines of 'Give Cassor a meltagun' but it's actually a warning that you might miss not having it But Cassor already has a meltagun...I'm so confused! Ok, that one is totally my bad, I thought he didn't have a meltagun but he actually doesn't have a Heavy Flamer, which isn't that big a deal. Cassor the Damned is actually quite a good Dreadnought to have if you own Shield of Baal. I know I will do exactly that, and call him Moriar the Damned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4111954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Spider Dread, Spider Dread, brings swift death to Heretics, Spider Dread... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310495-magna-grapple-vs-smoke-launchers/#findComment-4112034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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