palin2222 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 On the last page of the codex, Land raiders (all variants), rhinos, razorbacks, and drop pods are all listed under vehicles. However in their entry just a few pages back (on the pages that list what options you can buy for each) in the upper left hand corner there is a symbol. For the Rhino, Razorback and Drop pod it is the same symbol as the other fast attack choices. Is it safe to assume that I could purchase a Rhino, razorback, or a drop pod as a fast attack choice of a CAD if I wanted too? Could I also purchase a land raider for a heavy choice? Or are all of these only dedicated transports? I only ask because Im pretty sure in the last codex, the land raiders were heavy choice but could be taken as dedicated transports, but rhinos razor backs and drop pods were specifically under dedicated transports and could not be purchased on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Yes, you can buy empty transports as a FA choice. It's the new trend that settled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Bruinen Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 ^ as lucifer says. You can either buy it empty (as a FA choice, or heavy support in the case of land raider), or you can take them as a dedicated transport for a unit (making transports taken for tac squads ObSec in a CAD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 So... why would you want to take them as Fast Attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Bruinen Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I think the most common use will be taking extra drop pods to ensure all your units can drop pod assault t1 E.g. you have 2 tactical squads with dedicated drop pods and a dread in a pod, if you take 2 empty FA pods, all your actual units can drop on turn 1. The other reason is to take transports for units that couldn't ordinarily get one - e.g. C:SM players sometimes take pods to put centurions in. I don't know if there's any units in our codex that would apply to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 You could buy a transport for Scouts, if you really felt like it. Not sure why you would though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Yeah... I guess. Always have thought that it would look silly to add empty drop pods. I get the tactical advantage of ensuring early drops for your actual units. But, then you have more drop pods coming in, empty... from a fluffy point of view, I guess the enemy would find it quite confusing, how this huge metal capsules fall perilously through the atmosphere, and then pop open with in a dramatic display of heated metal and compressed air syphooning inward as they decompress now on the planet's surface, all to reaveal... What? Nothing? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika_angelus Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Put five men terminator squads in pods - turn one deathwing assault with extra movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 @Berzul: That's why I brought FWs Deathstorm ones; much fluffier, and they are an all round AV12 Whirlwind for 10 points more (that gets 1-3 shots on everything within 12" when they arrive too!). I don't see any other reason to take the transports in the dex as anything other than transports, but I guess it's cool there is an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 If you visit the Adeptus Mechanicus forum you'll learn that the excess drop pods are there to carry allied skitarii vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Silly cheese merchants; how do the little robots get onto our strike cruisers in the first place ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The rangers could do it. If they detach their bionic legs and pull their hoods forwards they look just like Watchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 So... why would you want to take them as Fast Attack? To use them as mobile terrain? To use them to take/contest objectives? To use them for a unit that doesn't have a Dedicated Transport option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 THey wouldn't have objective secured, and that makes an empty drop pod a bad way to cap an objective. At least as dedicated transport to a troop choice in a CAD, DC or BC, they would hold it better. Mobile terrain sounds like an idea that has merit. THey sure can mess with an oponent, I'll give you that. As for giving them to someone else, yes. Maybe in another army. But, trading a RWS slot for that? I know you COULD do it. I just can't see a situation in which you would CHOOSe to do it,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 To load up a Razorback with the other half of a combat squaded Tactical Squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palin2222 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 So... why would you want to take them as Fast Attack? Didn't say that I wanted too, just wanted to make sure I was reading the codex correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingleir Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Start your tacs in the FA pods and leave the obsec ones for later game objectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradstorm Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Have you considered using a 10-man scout squad with either boltguns or shotguns in a pod? That's a turn one (fairly accurate) deepstrike to get your improved-statline scouts in a good position for taking out light infantry units or early objective grabbing :), improved WS and BS and a points drop does make them more appealing. Use in CAD for ObSec or to escort 10th co support scout formation in with your lions' blade. I also like the idea of sending a load of empty rhino's up the board as a distraction whist your other units go to work elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 With infiltrate and scout, scouts can already easy to get into double tap range turn one. I like to put my scouts in rhinos so they can get some extra movement and utilize the protection that rhinos provide. Since I pretty much only use scouts for scoring, I don't mind if they don't shoot a whole lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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