TDA I-Chaplain weapon load out?

[o8oo Anarch]

Greetings all o/

 

Up until now I've not bothered with chaplains as my only opponent was a CSM player who I drop mostly DW against, so it seemed abit of a waste.  However I now face none chaos armies so figured I'd grab a TDA Chaplain to lead my DW vs xenos/none fallen.

 

Having looked at the entry in the new codex, upgrading to TDA arms him with a storm bolter and crozius arcanum with access to terminator weapons.  Terminator weapons selection says he may replace his power weapon, does this mean I can drop his crozius arcanm for say a chianfist and then his storm bolter for a lightning claw to lead my DWKs into glorious H2H victory?  or can he only swap out the stormbolter as the crozius doesnt say anywhere 'power weapon' specificly, but by it's descripion and stat line it is a power maul?

 

If possible, is this even a good idea?

 

(Forgive me if this is a stupid question, or been covered elsewhere but I'm relatively inexperianced at 40k and quick search didn't yield the answer)

 

 

[Wraith776]

Im not to sure on the ruling for swapping out the crozius via the terminator weapons but he can swap it out for a relic as it only says "A model may replace one weapon with..."

As regards to the crozius I don't think you can swap it via the terminator weapons as it may have the stats of a power maul but it's not a power weapon as per say, so I don't think you can swap it out like that.

A Mace of Redemption is probably just as good or better as a lightning claw. It's not shred but it has ap3 as well as +3S, blind, concussive and gets ap1 against chaos (though you aren't fighting them). Though for Terminators it is 6x the cost of the claw. 

 

EDIT - I personally wouldn't have a problem with swapping it out as it is the same as a power maul, but if the rules don't support it or are ambigous though I think they're clear you could always ask your opponent before hand.

[SvenONE]

Well the Shroud of Heroes is a must for me now.  From there you can give the MoR like Wraith suggested, and if you feel you have points to spare you can swap his storm bolter for the Foe Smiter.

[Wraith776]

Foe smiter would be a really good choice over the storm bolter. It's cheap, has volume of shots and shred. Perfect for a bit of Omph before you charge. 

The shroud is really great for it's value as well with the FnP and shrouded if he's not in a unit.

 

By the way for your original question for the crozius and swapping it, jump over to the faq thread and put it on there. I see the likely answer from RAW that no you can't but never hurts just to ask. 

[o8oo Anarch]

Thanks for the relpys folks.

 

The MoR is sweet, but I already converted my Librarian to wield Force axe+MoR combo (was this a terrible idea?). Is the Monster slayer of Caliban worth its points as an alternative, seems over priced and underwhelming to me?

 

If I can't swap out the crozius for a termi melee weapon, then SB/Foe Smiter it'll be as no point trading the SB for a specialist melee weapon I can't dual wield with the crozius/Mor/MSoC.

 

Will drop it into the faq thread too just incase :)

[march10k]

I wouldn't have done that to the librarian...he's not hitty enough, lol.  I'm giving the MoR to a jump-packing company master...interrogator chaplain (jump, bike, or TDA) would be  my second choice.

[Frater Cornelius]

Agreed. MoR is best on IChappy, simply because of Hatred, WS and I 5 and plenty of A base. Whether bike, PA or TDA, I would always run mine with MoR and Shroud of Heroes, especially when solo riding with a bike like there is no tomorrow.

[SvenONE]

I run the MSoC for the small chance it may actually so something. I think it makes the most sense on a CM only bc the Chap already has the crozius. It's a cool idea and a fun weapon to tell people you are using but from a practical standpoint it ends up just being a power sword.

 

Even still with the CM we now have a relic blade, so in TDA the points may not be worth it for the msoc

[Elios Harg]

Of course, multiple relics depends on whether your group interprets relic rules to be one per weapon or one per model. That said, an interrogator with foe-smiter and a mace of redemption would be outstanding as he'd get the most of both his high BS and his close combat abilities. Remember, though your intent is not to use him vs. Chaos Marines, he absolutely rocks against them now with preferred enemy to go with hatred on all Deathwing and AP1 on the mace.

 

I don't think your librarian set up is bad. Librarians do not have BS5. Of the two, you'd rather have the chaplain with a combi-weapon or foe-smiter. The librarian with an axe and mace has as many attacks as the chaplain with just one melee weapon and can still use it's BS4 for witchfire when it rolls then. The librarian also has better versatility with the mace+axe vs a chaplain with mace+crozius albeit with one less attack. The chaplain has a higher I so he will prevent stock marines from attacking while a librarian will not. The really bad thing is that the TDA librarian has to pay more for the mace because he must first buy a stormbolter and then trade it in. In that regard, you are paying slightly more for it (at least in my eyes as I'm content with not giving a librarian a stormbolter), yet you get slightly less out of it.