Nova_chron Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 So lately I've been running the lord of the flesh tearers in my army and I know on paper he isn't amazing, but give him a vehicle and some friends he gets to be dangerous. I've been thinking of putting him into some death company and using them as a nice sledge hammer his Str 9 on the charge puts a lot of wounds onto the enemy... Anyone else care to chime in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I think a Chaplain works better with DC, the rerolls and chance for concussive are more useful than more S9 attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 I've been putting him in assault squads right now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine_Blood Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I've always been fond of Seth, though I rarely use him. His model is beautiful, and though his rules look meh, I am of the opinion that he is good for exactly the reasons you mention. I would like to take him more often, but I am a Blood Angel, and Seth is a Flesh Tearer. Yeah, same codex, same rules, but that alone keeps me from taking him more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 f he was an hq and not a low I would always take himI Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Great looking model,but wasn't even a speed-bump vs Abbadon this week. More like a bug on a windshield. Needs EW badly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 the new Seth has ew edit: i retract my statement i just looked at my codex. even worse now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 not really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Great looking model,but wasn't even a speed-bump vs Abbadon this week. More like a bug on a windshield. Needs EW badly.Abbadon costs around 100 points more, has S8 lightning claw, PE and Hatred against SM, so you really shouldn't expect 150 pts character to slow him down. Seth can beat guys like Khârn or other stuff that costs around 150 points as well as infantry and vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I didn't expect him to beat Abbadon. I was soft-pawing a guy new at the game and I knew he would die. His didn't put a wound on him before being X'd in one hit. For 150 plus the Quickening, I shoulda got a wound out of if. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well, bad luck, I guess, with double hits on 6s, up to 12 attacks on charge and Rending he should cause a couple of wounds to 2+ save, I used Seth against orks, and he walked through mega-nobz squad, killing four greenskins and painboy. Also, there are many HQs that couldn't do what Seth does in close combat (any Dark Angels special character, for example) and cost more points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagunio Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 As a dedicated Flesh Tearers let me give you my 5 cents on Seth. I never play him as a standalone character. His main weaknesses are: 3+, ap4 and no eternal warrior. I tend to get him to lead deathstar unit of 6 vanguards (with 3 storm shields, and relic blade) and some support - librarian, inquisitor with rad and psychotroke granades and Corbulo. That needs land raider to transport. It is a realy expensive, but quite powerful combo. With new Land Raider Excelsior works quite nice. Inquisitor boosts defensive abilities of unit quite nicely with psychotrokes, and skyrockets Seths offensive skills with rad granades. This combo lets you instagib T5 opponents now. Now Seth has 4 attacks base. Add to this 2 for charge, and you get 6. Librarian with ba powers gets you another d3 attacks, and if you roll well - 1 more from unleash rage. Thats around 9 attacks. Lvl 1 inquisitor gets you re-rolls to hit with divination primaris Now with Corbullo (and landing ba primaris) you get 8-10 (or 7-9 if on Flesh Tearers detachment) initiative, which means striking first vs almost anything. Vanguard sgt is a nice bonus here too - if you go with FT detachment, and land a good charge and unleash rage you get 5 s7ap3 attacks. 3 storm shields in the unit (one on sgt) let you survive quite a lot of punishment. What he accomplished so far: - I managed to land 8 hits and wounds on invisible unit with this with T5 khorne lord with axe of blind fury. He passed all of his 5 3+ saves and 3 4+ invs tho, and butchered me in return - dispatch Pask and 2 other Leman Russ tanks in one charge - kill 3 meganobs in one round of cc (not charging) But he's not an all-rounder, just my way of playing, and in more competitive games I'd rather pick Dante Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I imagine he's pretty mad against Necrons, ignoring armour and reanimation with his big ol chainsword. Just keep him away from the Lords. He shouldve been a HQ with a 2+ though. Also, that face when you realise the Chapter Master of the Flesh Tearers doesn't have a Flesh Tearer Warlord Trait... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I imagine he's pretty mad against Necrons, ignoring armour and reanimation with his big ol chainsword. Just keep him away from the Lords. He shouldve been a HQ with a 2+ though. Also, that face when you realise the Chapter Master of the Flesh Tearers doesn't have a Flesh Tearer Warlord Trait... He has rampage, rampage is one of the FT warlord traits, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagunio Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I imagine he's pretty mad against Necrons, ignoring armour and reanimation with his big ol chainsword. Just keep him away from the Lords. He shouldve been a HQ with a 2+ though. Also, that face when you realise the Chapter Master of the Flesh Tearers doesn't have a Flesh Tearer Warlord Trait... He has rampage, rampage is one of the FT warlord traits, right? correct. But flesh tearers have far better traits that rampage, so imo it's a waste Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4111992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Raul Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 His power armour absolutely should be artificer. Or jack up his invul save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4112747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Seth is describe as a strengh of nature, so it would be normal at least that he have the Eternal Warrior, and, it would also be normal that is eviscerator to be recognized as an eviscerator, so AP2 and Str X2, with the special benefit of Wieldy and Rending. After that, if such change would realize, i think that an artificer armour or a boosted invulnerable save, would be far too much. (There is also the possibility, that one day, GW or FW, release a Seth model in Nassir Terminator Armour or a Nassir model.....for more than 200pts of course^^....Calgar would be litteraly Owned if such Terminator Armour were to be released....) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4112838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Oh if thy make Amit for the heresy I'm so playing the 5th company in heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4112881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 So I took Seth to battle with imperial fists last night and while he fought well his lack of EW showed as he got smushed by Lysander in a challenge however he still earned his points back killing 3 TH/SS terminators and putting three wounds on Lysander.... Ran him in an assault squad I think he needs friends with more punch all in all the dice gods were unkind to me failing to many easy charges, next game I'm going to give Dante a go what is a good unit for him to tag team with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310559-your-thoughts-on-seth/#findComment-4112954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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